30-06 spacer

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I tried the search function, but came up blank.

My RCBS 30-06 dies have a factory cardboard ring included in the box.

I once knew, but can no longer recall what this is for.

Is it so you can neck-size only without otherwise changing your die's settings?

Or is it for something else?

Thanks in advance.
 
No, nothing to do with spacing.
A spacer would be made from steel.

I think it gives off chemical fumes to keep the dies from rusting??
Maybe???

At any rate, it is just packing material of some sort.

rc
 
It's treated with rust preventative so your dies won't get that "coastal patina" on them. It's not for use with the dies.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
In the 30/06 die box there was a round desiccant plug that had no function other than to absorb moisture.



In the old days they made a die set for the 38 Special then they made a 357 3 die set for the 357 Mag, after that they combined the two sets and added a spacer that spaced the seater die to seat both the 38 and 357, I adjust die to the shell holder to size everytime and adjust the seater crimp die to seat and crip so the spacer was nice to have but usless.

F. Guffey
 
I know about the 1/10" spacers with the .38/.357s.

There is a legitimate reason for this one, I just don't recall it.

I'll call the friend who told me about it and report back. I was trying to not bother him, as I'm trying to not be a pain with my questions.
 
Fred, RC and fguffey -

I think you are both referring to a solid disk, roughly about the size of a nickel and a little thicker.

This is approximately 2" in diameter with a 7/8" - 1" hole in the center, suitable to go between the die and the press. Only about 1/32" or so thick.

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Follow up -

We talked, and for the life of him, he can't visualize what I'm talking about.

However, before I acquired this set of dies, I borrowed his set, and I have a home-made circle of cardboard sitting on my bench that he told me how to make and how to use. Now, he can't remember. Our age is beginning to show via our failing memories.

The particular set I have is made by RCBS, but the dies are in a factory cardboard box, not the plastic one now in use. So I'm guessing that they are older (not at home right now to look at the date) and from the time when the reloading manuals told how to simulate neck sizing using the FL sizing die (back it off half a turn or so).
 
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I use a spacer like that to crimp or not crimp. I set the die up to crimp and if I don't want to crimp I just throw in the spacer. Usually I just use the ring from the 357 set mentioned above but thick cardboard would work too.

J.
 
Well that just makes too much sense. :)

I'll call them Monday. I could send an e-mail now, but they want my mailing address and phone number and way more information than they need just to answer a simple e-mail.

I'll let ya'll know.
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Walkalong - we were posting at the same time. No. Cardboard, roughly 2" OD, 7/8" ID.
 
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Oh, I know, there are some that never loosen the lock nut for various reasons, they can not find the allen wrench, they load for one chamber and do not feel secure when the lock nut is loose etc., and or never consider the versatility if the full length sizer die when used with the companion tool to the press, the feeler gage., If in my position there is a lock nut that is secured to the die, it is not my die, I adjust the die to the press every time I set the press up, seater and sizer.



So someone has a spacer to set the die off the shell holder by placing the spacer between the die lock nut and press., they go from full length sizing to neck sizing and as someone said to avoid crimping.



F. Guffey
 
Quite frankly, I have never heard of a cardboard ring spacer coming with RCBS dies for anything.

Steel spacer rings with certain revolver dies certainly, but not cardboard.
I just can't imagine RCBS ever doing that back when thier dies came in cardboard boxes many many years ago.

Be interesting to see what the date stamped on the dies is.

rc
 
No dates.

The seater die has RCBS stamped vertically on the left side. Starting at about the 6:30/7:00 position, it reads "30-06 SEAT", ending at about the 2 o'clock position. Stamped at 12:00, is the letter "L".

The size/deprime die has RCBS in the same place. Starting at about the 6:30/7:00 position, it reads "30-06 F.L." Stamped at about the 11:00 position is the letter "M".

The instruction sheet in the box doesn't appear to say anything about it. The apparent date on the instructions is 1960. The enclosed price sheet indicates the retail price of these dies was $13.50.

I'll try to get pictures, but no guarantees. My photo-fu is weak.
 
L and M, or M and L goes back to Fred Huntington, that was before they put a date (year) on the dies, Today, RCBS has to do a lot of research to determine when the dies were made. Nothing suspect about the dies, I believe thew fiber type washer was used by a very conserved reloader that did not want to scratch his press and lock ring, the reloader could have been one of those very serious reloadsers that cranked down on the die/lock ring, the fiber washer could have aided in backing off the die.

F. Guffey
 
Well, I called and spoke with a rep who's been there 31 years. She confirmed that my dies are from the 60s, but otherwise, had no clue. They don't have any employees still working who have been there 50, or nearly 50, years. She was not aware of them shipping any spacers with die sets other than those for .38 special/.357 magnum and .44 special/magnum.

I'll load up some of these partial resized cartridges after I get some more of the FL resized cases done. I'll see how they shoot using the same powder charge and will eventually check back in with the results. 30-06 shooting will be non-existent for the next several weeks.

Thanks all.
 
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