Groups Seek Nationwide Ban on Traditional Lead Ammunition By Petitioning EPA

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While troublesome in its intent, I'm not yet overly concerned about this petition. The reason being that big industry has a lot of power in this country. Banning lead ammo would severely hurt the bottom lines of the big ammo companies, who are in some cases subsidiaries of powerful mega-corporation. In the US, the mega-corporations get their way. This is the one time I can think of where this fact works for us regular folk.
 
Constitution Cowboy has done an excellent job of explaining the barrier to a change under TSCA to ban lead based ammunition.

That doesn't mean the EPA might not decide to attempt this. If they made that mistake (and the law is so clear and will be clearly pointed out), that would be challenged in court immediately and they would loose.

Ultimately the only way to ban lead based ammunition is for Congress to pass an amendment to TSCA removing the 3 (2)(A)v opening taxed ammunition to inclusion. I do not think that we can expect such a change in legislation.

We should continue to comment, pointing out that accepting the petition position amounts to usurping Congress's authority wrt to making or amending legislation, ignores a preponderance of scientific data showing lead ammunition represents an insignificant hazard to the environment and public health and would represent an excessive economic harm to the producers of lead based ammunition, hunters and recreational shooters, law enforcement and the military because of the expense of alternatives to lead based ammunition (none of which have been found to be cost effective).
 
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RC,

Thanks!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/27/epa-rejects-calls-ban-lead-ammo-fishing-tackle/

The Environmental Protection Agency has denied a petition filed by environmental activists seeking to ban lead in ammunition and fishing tackle, saying such regulation is beyond the agency's authority.

The agency's decision, announced Friday shortly after FoxNews.com published its report on the issue, sided with hunters and fishermen who had argued that the such regulations weren't allowed under the Toxic Substances Control Act of 1976.

"EPA is taking action on many fronts to address major sources of lead in our society, such as eliminating childhood exposures to lead," the agency said in a written statement. "However, EPA was not and is not considering taking action on whether the lead content in hunting ammunition poses an undue threat to wildlife."

Petition rejected 3 days after submittal! That was quick.
 
It doesn't mean that the groups who presented the petition will cease and desist. They'll keep trying.

That's right, we definitely need to stay on top of things. We've done pretty well in the last decade, as far as gun rights go, but we still have a long way to fight uphill.
 
armoredman,

I can't agree. Considering that it would require Congress to amend TSCA it wouldn't take much for EPA to realize that there was no way for them to make a rule change (with people pointing out the fact as well) on this. Kinda like, It doesn't matter how much your kid wants that new pair of useless shoes, there's no need to discuss it once you find out you don't have the money to get them.

I'd like to hope that the EPA simply decided there wasn't any regulatory or technical merit, but the simplest answer is that they decided that there was no way they could make a change and it took 3 days (and a bunch of comments) for the machinery to crank.
 
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hso said:
Constitution Cowboy has done an excellent job of explaining the barrier to a change under TSCA to ban lead based ammunition.

Thanks, hso.

:evil: Now that the EPA has rejected the petition, I've got the big-head! :cool:

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In cases where someone is shot, and the bullet, or pellets not removed, the body encapsulates the foriegn object. New studies are showing degeneration of vital organs such as the liver, kidneys, and brain, due to lead toxicities caused by bullets, pellets left in patients. You can try to muddle the issue by insisting bullets are alloys, or whatever, but the simple fact is, lead, in any form, alloy or amount is a toxic heavy metal. I am no fan of the EPA, in fact many of their ideals are unrealistic, but at least be honest about the issues concerning lead,(in many or any of its forms). It is a cheap metal, that makes it expediant, but perhaps not the best.
 
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