Let's talk about the new production Win. 70's, Ruger M77's and Rem. 700's...

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So, I'm somewhat out of the loop on new production bolt actions. When it comes to most guns, I know exactly what I want when I'm looking to buy. Unfortunately, for once in my life, I know what type of gun I want, but not the exact gun. I'm even in between on the caliber. I'ts between .308 and 30-06, but if I found a good deal on a .270 or a 7mm-08, I wouldn't be opposed.

I'm looking to buy a new deer/range gun, and I'm really looking at the newest run of Winchester 70's (FN produced). It seems like Winchester (or rather FN) actually made good after the stuff they put out from '64 onward. On paper, the new Model 70's are looking pretty sweet. I was raised with pre-64 Model 70's and 94's, and I'm really hoping that the new production can come back around to be decent guns. I've heard a few good reviews, and the one's I've handled seem like pretty great guns. In fact the one I held was smooth as butter. As of now, I'm leaning toward the Model 70.

But then again, I have a massive soft spot for anything Ruger. Every time I go the gun store I hear those M77's calling my name, and then I stand there shifting my eyes between the 70's and the Hawkeyes.

Another one that I've always considered a good gun is the Remington 700. The thing about the 700 is that I have zero experience with them. I've heard great things from trusted friends, they are well established in the market, people love them, but this leads me to my biggest issue...

All of these guns were, at one point, great guns, but what about now? I know that a 50's era Model 70 is a great gun. I know that Rem. 700's and Ruger M77's have been great guns for the better part of their production times, but do the new ones still hold up?

It's undeniable that things have changed. Rifles that once were terrible, are now good. Rifles that once were good, are now terrible. I want a new production gun, but I'm not up to speed on whose been dropping the ball (although I have heard that Reminton's QC has been a bit lackluster in the recent years).

I'd like to hear from those of you who have recently produced versions of these guns. I want to know the good and bad. I'd also really like to hear about the new trigger systems in these guns (MOA specifically).
 
I just purchased a new Model 70 Featherweight in 243, and she's a beauty. Fit and finish is comparable to my CZ, and she's a shooter. My last 3 shot group at 300 yards was 1 1/2" shooting off of a bench. The trigger is crisp with virtually no take up. The safety is a little stiff, but it seems to be loosening up with use and a little Rem gun oil.

Of all the guns I take to the range, the Model 70 seems to draw the most attention. Of course we are older guys, and there is something about a rifle with beautiful wood and great checkering that we all admire.

I don't think you could go wrong with a Rem 700, Ruger M77, or even one of the new Savages either. I have recently purchased a Rem 700 5R, and a Savage LRPV, and they both are shooters, but I'm not sorry that my last purchase was the Model 70.

Ken
 
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The last place in the world, I ever saw myself buying a rifle was,,um,,err,,um,,Walmart.
Roll back price: Remington 700 w/2x-9x Bore sighted scope. Cammo stock $460. Available in 270 win or 30 06. I bought the 270. The action is smooth, perhaps the best out of the box trigger ever. 6 shots to a 100 yard 0 with a group you can cover with a thumbnail. Whats not to love? Just wear a hat, some sunglasses, if no one you know see's you, once you get it home, you can tell your buddies you got it from the gunstore in the next town over for $750 and everyone will tell you what a steal you got. It will be our little secret. :D
 

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Ive owned just about every brand of rifle and i will make one comment. Ive yet to own a rem 700 that wasnt an excellent shooter.
 
I've owned an m77 in .243 and currently own a very old m70 in .300wm. They were/still are great shooters and I wouldn't hesitate a second to purchase either one again.
 
Personally I think the Ruger is the best bang for the buck out there. They are a little heavier and while I like the Hawkeyes I don't particularly care for the finish on them.

Haven't owned a Winchester out of the new plant, but have heard lots of good reviews about fit and finish on them.

I'm not all impressed with Remingtons quality the last few years, every company wants to increase the bottom dollar but their penny counters have started to affect the overall product (my opinion)



Nothing wrong with picking up a clean used gun to not only save some money, but maybe pick up Remington with a little better fit/finish.
 
All three are about even quality wise. But expect them to need a trigger job.

If you want a high quality rifle, at a reasonable price, that's ready to go out of the box, get a Kimber!
 
The best rifle, pound for pound, out-of the box, is a Savage.

I bought myself a Savage 14 Classic in .308, it is a beautiful gun, dead accurate, and has the looks to match the results.

The trigger is the best out there on a factory rifle.
 
Own all three of the afore mentioned rifles. Nothing really "wrong" with any of them( might lean toward the 700 a bit) but when I go to the woods--its with a Weatherby.
 
Yes, I did. My current Super Grade .30-06 Sprg is excellent! The first one was trash! Winchester did replace it, but it has left me wondering even about FN's quality control. They got it right...eventually. Should have been right the first time.

I also have the new Win Stealth .308 Win. That one was right the first time.

Geno
 
It seems like Winchester (or rather FN) actually made good after the stuff they put out from '64 onward.

Actually, from 1968 until the last few years before the New Haven, CT Winchester plant closed, there was nothing wrong with a Winchester built rifle. The rifles from the 70's and 80's are nicely built pieces.

Don
 
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