Changing cyclic rate

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MAC 10/45 bursts

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Even a kid hosing a 45 MAC for the first time isn't all over the place.
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If you really want to talk about high rates of fire you can even burst full auto Glocks.

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Even hosing as light as they are, still easy to control.
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I will say that I haven't the experience with the M-11/9...that one is quite decked out with the shoulder stock and foregrip...but I have had experience with the M-11 (.380) and the M-10 (.45)

The M-11 was very pleasant and controllable in burst fire.

The M-10 did take a little practice to get 2-3 controlled rounds on target, but it was really a lot of fun, and very controllable, when you added a suppressor
 
Here is the MP5 and M16 with the tacticool forward grip, as you can see it's more about the shooter than the gun.

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I will say that I haven't the experience with the M-11/9...that one is quite decked out with the shoulder stock and foregrip


All of the M10 SMG's came with the wire stock the foregrip is just a can I built with K's to look similar to the Sionics, and still much more compact than the MP5.
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As you can see here even a stocked Glock is about the same length as a short barrel M16.

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well gee, by 1974, when i was there, the mac had been around for about what, 10 years, and the greyback wasn't hauling missles anymore,,,what did you say it was hauling, highly trained operatives? :) thanks for verifying what I said. sorry about the typo with cobray.
 
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well gee, by 1974, when i was there, the mac had been around for about what, 10 years, and the greyback wasn't hauling missles anymore,,,what did you say it was hauling, highly trained operatives? :)
Funny how you focus on the one issue that "proves" you right, whilst glossing over the glut of mistakes, false experiences, et al.
 
The OP asked the hows and whys of changing cyclic rate and that was well answered by several folks. The rest is a debate on the usefulness of some types of subguns. That's deserving of it's own discussion if done thoughtfully and politely, it's a long debated topic for sure.
 
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