CCW and back round check??

As I understand it (second hand since I'm not from CO) the sheriff has 90 days to issue or deny and some are simply being a pain and waiting right up til the last minute to do anything.

Another thing I believe they did here in NH, is they require 3 references. So I believe they send a letter to the referenced ppls asking the same questions they asked you. Any felonies or any other reason they sholdnt issue to you, etc...? Then when they get those letters back they are ready. So Im thinking this goes more in depth than the NICS.

Just out of curiosity, if the sheriff does a back round check just like they do when you buy a firearm shouldnt you be able to get a CCW in about 1 hours time?

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Only if you can spell background properly...

If not what takes so long?

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Slow moving bureaucracy.

From the time I mailed it to when I received it, my AZ (when I lived there) CCW took about three weeks. (I haven't yet tried for my TN HCP.)

I agree with you boostedxt, if a sheriff deputy can run a check when you are pulled over and tell if you are a good person or not, then they should be able to run the check when you hand in your app.

Better yet we should not debate how to allow the government to more efficiently run our lives. We should be talking about how to get rid of the unconstitutional CCW permit requirement and adopt Vermont carry.

As Coloradans we need to follow the footsteps of Arizona's return to liberty and get rid of any CCW requirements. I am tired of asking permission to live my life as a free American.

I also live in Manchester, NH. The references are not required by law. Some police departments, like Manchester, ask for them. Even though they asked for references, they never called or wrote to any of them. Same for my fiance who got her permit a few weeks after I did.

What I CAN say is that they did not approve or deny my application within the allotted time allowed by law (14 days). I had to apply a 2nd time and they got it done right at the last minute. My fiance had no such trouble.

Also worth noting that the Manchester PD was rude on the phone (hanging up on me a few times) and in person. Overall I think they frown on the process.


http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xii/159/159-mrg.htm

Chapter 159 Section 6

>>>shouldnt you be able to get a CCW in about 1 hours time? Finger printing takes 5 minutes, photo is instant, but the back round check takes the most time. Do they do a more in depth review? If not what takes so long?<<<

Totally depends on the state, and their procedure(s).
Not all states require fingerprinting. Of those that do, not all actually run them through the FBI database for criminal records. Printing someone may be done in a few minutes, and actually classifying and checking the prints takes only a few minutes, but they do have to be sent to Virginia for that to be done. Then, there's the matter of manpower. There's never enough to keep there from being a backlog.

Background checks, actually criminal histories, take only a minute or so to run on computer, but again there is the manpower issue. A typical county (at least in my part of the country) will issue a lot of permits, and add to that the renewals. That adds up to a lot of criminal histories run in a day/week, and that takes time.

As mentioned, some counties send out letters, some call references. That takes time. Most all have one individual which makes the final decision on permit approval, and that is not their only duty.

Bottom line is that the individual county sheriff sets the procedure, and the time required is determined by that set of procedures. Some make it convenient and easy (my county takes less than a week) while others make it cumbersome and difficult and delay the process as long as possible.
The process could be shortened to a day or less, but the logistics of making it almost instantaneous would be very expensive for the counties, especially departments with limited resources.

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Slow moving bureaucracy.

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Is there any other type?

then they should be able to run the check when you hand in your app

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Use of the NCIC system for background checks except in very limited circumstances is not permitted. Prints take time to return. Live scan if used has reduced that greatly. All fignerprinting for application purposes in NJ has been turned over to a private vendor. Retuns now come back to the submitting agency in an hour or two.

The limiting factor is that the world doesn't stop when you submit the application. The vast majority of the departments don't have dedicated personnel handling permits. Nor do they drop everything when one comes in. Manpower has been reduced to levels in my department not seen since the 70's. The one officer processing permits also has other assignments involving criminal actions that are time sensitive.

Based on what's happening, it's not going to get better. Technology isn't the holdup, restrictions on its use is.

NH. The references are not required by law.

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The standard state form has the area for three references. In each of my applications, letters were sent to those listed.

That is very true rscalzo, that is why I added the second part of my post about getting rid of the bureaucracy all together.

Instead of debating what color rope we are going to use to hang ourselves with, we should be talking about how to free ourselves from the government.

Down here in southern Alabama, if you are a 1st time permit requestor,
the whole process might take 15 or 20 minutes. After the first time,
you'll get a renewal card in he mail. Every 5 years, you have to go in
person to update your photo.