There's a cut in my new Glock 26 frame. This isn't normal, is it?
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LiveLife
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Hey now, before the thread heads south ... 
The OP posted the picture and question for a "NEW" Glock worried that there might be a crack in the slide breech face.
Answer: NO CRACK, just a machine cut/mark.
I posed the plausibility why Glock would put such a machine cut/mark there, and that it might be a relief cut to allow buildup of fouling, but still allow the case base rim to reliably ride up the extractor during feeding from the magazine.
As to some slides having tool marks and some not, as long as the pistol functions reliably, I think it is good. Glocks are mass produced combat tolerance pistol, not limited run presentation/uber match pistols.
The OP posted the picture and question for a "NEW" Glock worried that there might be a crack in the slide breech face.
Answer: NO CRACK, just a machine cut/mark.
I posed the plausibility why Glock would put such a machine cut/mark there, and that it might be a relief cut to allow buildup of fouling, but still allow the case base rim to reliably ride up the extractor during feeding from the magazine.
As to some slides having tool marks and some not, as long as the pistol functions reliably, I think it is good. Glocks are mass produced combat tolerance pistol, not limited run presentation/uber match pistols.
Wispa
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What bds said sums it up nicely.
At first I was concerned that it was a crack of some kind. It's not. Others who have detail stripped their pistols have shown, with pictures, that it appears to be a relief cut which may have been put there to aid in reliable extraction. That's just a guess by members here and on another forum as well.
I did call Glock (mentioned in post #15) and the person who answered the phone knew what I was talking about. All he was able to tell me was that it's there on purpose but he doesn't know why. If you follow the link in post #15 you'll be able to see the slide breech face with the extractor removed.
At the end of the day there is no 100% concrete answer but all is well. After all the posts and information from members I tend to feel it is there to help the extractor, but that's just an opinion.
At first I was concerned that it was a crack of some kind. It's not. Others who have detail stripped their pistols have shown, with pictures, that it appears to be a relief cut which may have been put there to aid in reliable extraction. That's just a guess by members here and on another forum as well.
I did call Glock (mentioned in post #15) and the person who answered the phone knew what I was talking about. All he was able to tell me was that it's there on purpose but he doesn't know why. If you follow the link in post #15 you'll be able to see the slide breech face with the extractor removed.
At the end of the day there is no 100% concrete answer but all is well.
After all the posts and information from members I tend to feel it is there to help the extractor, but that's just an opinion.
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Wispa said:
OK then, I suggest you call that Glock PR guy again and tell him that you'll be sending a bunch (let's call it ten) of Glocks back to the factory to have this "feature" added at their expense. Let's see what he'd say to that!!
Wispa said:
I think I can do a better job of summing this up ....
1. The existence or lack of a "relief" cut has no affect on reliability or longevity
2. The "relief" cut is merely an aesthetic issue
3. Glock doesn't want a bunch of picky Glock owners demanding a new pistol merely for aesthetic reasons
4. Glock puts out a "win-win" explanation of "we don't know why it's there but it's there for a purpose" to appease the masses
5. The masses are so inebriated on Glock-Aid that they'd believe any "reasonable" explanation including it's where a US Government GPS nanochip was cut out by the nice folks at Glock
There ... DONE!!!
And all this time, I thought that a GLOCKENSPIEL was a musical instrument!!
Skylerbone
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Maybe it's a remnant of the soft relief (the famous Glock kb cut). Maybe it's been put there for nefarious government purposes to mark your spent brass. Maybe Glock, like everyone else, doesn't bother with polishing the breechface to save money. Or maybe, it's a secret squirrel GFB (Glock Fan Boy) feature just like every other part of the Glock, put there purposely to detect those who have tried but not loved the Kool Aid...or maybe Tilos is right. Yep, makes sense to me.
Not to get off subject but has anyone else heard that the rough concentric tool marks on the 870 Express are really there to tune the harmonics of the barrel? I may have to call Remington...
Not to get off subject but has anyone else heard that the rough concentric tool marks on the 870 Express are really there to tune the harmonics of the barrel? I may have to call Remington...
Wispa
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I think I can do a better job of summing this up ....
1. The existence or lack of a "relief" cut has no affect on reliability or longevity
2. The "relief" cut is merely an aesthetic issue
3. Glock doesn't want a bunch of picky Glock owners demanding a new pistol merely for aesthetic reasons
4. Glock puts out a "win-win" explanation of "we don't know why it's there but it's there for a purpose" to appease the masses
5. The masses are so inebriated on Glock-Aid that they'd believe any "reasonable" explanation including it's where a US Government GPS nanochip was cut out by the nice folks at Glock
There ... DONE!!!
That's possible too.
It would be great to find out the truth but at this point I'm not worried either way. I'm just happy it's not what I thought it was originally. I really don't think anyone in Glock customer service will give a straight answer. The two times I've called them I got the feeling they'd tell me anything I'd like to hear.
I'm fine with never knowing the honest truth. If it's just a cosmetic thing that's fine with me. I'm not concerned about scratches. I bought it with expectations of it being a carry gun. It'll be getting scratched up even more.
I'm confident the gun is just fine. At some point in the next few days I'll be going through the ammo I bought and look forward to nice time.
xXxplosive
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Guess the QC has finally gone to hell.............that looks terrible.
Wispa said:
I don't own any Glocks but I've shot a bunch and they're excellent pistols. I wouldn't give that "feature" a second thought. In fact, given the choice of having one "with" or "without", I'd choose "with" ... makes the breech face interesting. Enjoy your pistol and well done for taking the gentle (friendly) ribbing in stride. Go Glock!!
Wispa
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I don't own any Glocks but I've shot a bunch and they're excellent pistols. I wouldn't give that "feature" a second thought. In fact, given the choice of having one "with" or "without", I'd choose "with" ... makes the breech face interesting. Enjoy your pistol and well done for taking the gentle (friendly) ribbing in stride. Go Glock!!
Will do! Thanks 1815.
Full Metal Jacket
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too much "glock hypochondria" going on in here lol
BHP FAN
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I think SSN Vet nailed it. In any case nothing to worry about.
LiveLife
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Wait, I think the Glock models with those "special" relief cuts were unannounced "special duty edition" meant for those 100,000+ round stress tests. My match G22s have well over 100K rounds each, and yup, came with those "special relief" cuts. 
Maybe not ...
Maybe not ...
Creature
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Glock put that mill cut there for aesthetics??? Come on now. We're not all turnips here.
Skylerbone
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Well it does measure 3.14159265mm...hmmm.
xXxplosive
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I would never accept that.............send it back.....I see trouble down the road with that opening or spreading. Defect definately !!!!
Wispa
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Skylerbone
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I didn't really measure it, I don't own any Glocks; ( Just wondered how quickly people would break out their calipers. Sorry 'bout that and good catch Wispa.
Creature
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Aesthetic:
–adjective
1. pertaining to a sense of the beautiful or to the science of aesthetics.
2. having a sense of the beautiful; characterized by a love of beauty.
3. pertaining to, involving, or concerned with pure emotion and sensation as opposed to pure intellectuality.
–noun
4. a philosophical theory or idea of what is aesthetically valid at a given time and place: the clean lines, bare surfaces, and sense of space that bespeak the machine-age aesthetic.
I hardly think Glock milled that cut for beauty's sake. Especially since the relief cut is not readily seen when the slide is in battery.
LiveLife
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I wonder what Glock engineers would say if they read this thread ...
"Darn those American shooters who want match grade perfection and performance out of combat pistols ... they catch every little detail ... I mean we just do everything to please them: fix the chamber, fix the tolerances, fix the spring rates, fix the magazines, etc. Now they want perfection in our relief cuts and machine marks ... holy Glock!"
Maybe?
"Darn those American shooters who want match grade perfection and performance out of combat pistols ... they catch every little detail ... I mean we just do everything to please them: fix the chamber, fix the tolerances, fix the spring rates, fix the magazines, etc. Now they want perfection in our relief cuts and machine marks ... holy Glock!"
Maybe?
I come back to this thread out of curiosity to see what else could possibly be added.
I guess any thread with "glock" in the question is going to go one for 2 or 3 pages.
Even when the question was answered and varified within the 1st dozen posts, the drival goes on and on.
And now, even I am bumping it back to the top
Please, stop sawing saw dust here, remove all life support and let this thread die with dignity
I guess any thread with "glock" in the question is going to go one for 2 or 3 pages.
Even when the question was answered and varified within the 1st dozen posts, the drival goes on and on.
And now, even I am bumping it back to the top
Please, stop sawing saw dust here, remove all life support and let this thread die with dignity
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