Need Input Re Upgrading Restricted LTC to All Lawful Purposes

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Jeekay

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Here's the background: I'm up for my first renewal of my Class A LTC, currently restricted to "Sporting and Target." I am composing a supplemental letter (for attachment to my renewal application) to my local police chief, requesting consideration of an upgrade to "All Lawful Purposes" (ALP). This is a police chief of a highly gun-unfriendly Massachusetts suburb where getting an ALP is rumored to be harder than climbing an alp. I do not own a business; I do not transport large amounts of cash or expensive high-tech equipment; I am not involved in law enforcement, security, or private investigation; and I have no reason (thankfully) to fear for my life or the lives of my loved ones.

My reason for wanting the ALP is that I plan on obtaining my firearm safety instructor certification in 2011 in order to teach handgun safety classes at my club.

My question is, do you think this is a legitimate reason? If yes, then why do you think it is a legitimate reason for seeking a non-restricted LTC?
 
It doesn't matter what we think, it matters what the chief of police thinks. And in-light of various supreme court rulings, it doesn't matter what the chief of police thinks.

Does anybody think it would be too confrontational to mention certain provisions from the scotus rulings as justification for issuing an "All lawful purposes" along with Jeekay's reason?
 
You seem a bit confused.

When you apply for a LTC in MA there is a space on the form where they ask you why you are applying. If you put anything in that space besides "all lawful purposes" then there is a good chance your licence will be restricted to whatever you put there.

So don't put down you are applying for "work" as an example, or you will be resticted to only carry at work.

To be clear: if you want an unrestricted LTC in MA, in the space where they ask you why you want it, put down "all lawful purposes".

You may find more info at the northeast shooters forum.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/forum.php
 
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You seem a bit confused.

When you apply for a LTC in MA there is a space on the form where they ask you why you are applying. If you put anything in that space besides "all lawful purposes" then there is a good chance your licence will be restricted to whatever you put there.

So don't put down you are applying for "work" as an example, or you will be resticted to only carry at work.

To be clear: if you want an unrestricted LTC in MA, in the space where they ask you why you want it, put down "all lawful purposes".

I REPLY:

I have indeed entered "All Lawful Purposes" in the appropriate space on the renewal application. But in my city, if the holder of a Restricted Class A LTC wishes to renew and upgrade to "All Lawful Purposes" that holder MUST submit a supplemental letter to the Chief explaining in GREATER DETAIL the holder's reason for such an upgrade request.
 
So it goes to the above, it doesn't matter what we think (like why don't you move to a free state)

All that matters is what the chief thinks, so why don't you schedule an appointment with him and talk.
 
Is Police Chief an elected office?

If so, I can suggest what that supplemental letter to the chief usually contains... I don't know about MA specifically, but that's how "may-issue" often seems to work.
 
it might help to know which town you are in as some towns are notoriously anti gun and wont issue an alp ltc for the life of 'em....


luckily for me...i actually put"recreation" as my reson for issuance......and they gave me an unrestricted ltc anyways...
 
The last paragraph has me confused,are you a resident or not. Reason being is out of state
(non resident) are always ALP. Granted you have to be interviewed at the licensing HQ.
but you would get a ALP. Come over to NES and you'll get some very good advice on how to get your LTC upgraded to ALP
 
Oh, looks like I was the confused one.

To answer your question though: I would not see teaching handgun safety as a reason one needs to carry a gun every where.

If I had to write that letter I would avoid specifically explaining why I wanted an unrestricted LTC and instead go into abstract ideas about freedom and safety and stuff like that.

The northeast shooters forum is good because they seem to focus on social and legal aspects of shooting instead of technical information. There is a lawyer who is active on that forum who seems to really know his stuff and has an interest in gun rights. I would seek out his or another lawyers advice.
 
Thanks, 14:

Here's the problem: My city of residence is Newton, MA. In Newton, ideological and Constitutional illuminations and arguments regarding the right to carry concealed will be summarily dismissed as gun-nut rhetoric. The Newton PD requires that you clearly state, IN A SUPPLEMENTAL LETTER TO THE CHIEF, your PRACTICAL reasons for upgrading to a non-restricted LTC.

Therefore, I'm trying to articulate what it is about being a certified handgun instructor that reasonably lends itself to the need for a non-restricted LTC.
 
You could also add that due to your adverting as a gun instructor that you are also adverting that you have weapons, and that you would like to be able to carry one in such a way that the said weapon won't be take away from you by the unsavory elements.
 
That's a very good point, Shadow. Thanks.

And thanks to everyone else who so kindly and informatively responded - I think I'm good to give this letter a go.
 
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