Blackhawk Serpa Holsters - Opinions

The transition between the simple question "What do you think of this holster?" and "...when he was doing PMC work in Iraq" missed me somewhere.

Denis

Like I said.
I use Serpa holsters for Beretta and Sig pistols and Blade-Tech for Glock and 1911s.

The Serpa works well with double action first shot pistols, but I agree this holster design may cause a fumble fingered shooter to trigger a round into his own extremeties under stress when used with a lighter trigger pull weapon.

The Serpa would likely do well with a 1911 type pistol since you wipe the safety after you come into a shooting stance but I had Blade-Tech holsters for these guns long before the Serpa came on the market and have stuck with them.

9,
Next time you're in town, pizza's on me.
Denis

I have 2 and they are good for cold weather CC or open carry, not so much in warmer weather for CCing.

I don't know what extra step you guys are talking about unless you are referring to the level 3 retention. I can unholster my handgun from my Serpa as fast as I can one without a retention device.

When I draw from mine my finger falls right in place and releases the retention in one smooth motion and my finger falls in place along the slide where it should be until I'm ready to fire.

i think it is funny that on a forum which is suposed to be writting back and forth between folks, ask questions, state opinions, etc. A mod makes a comment about a school, and i have a serious question as to why they feel the way they do and then the posts are deleated. So what? it got a littel off topic, maybe if the Mod would have explained himself about his "past experiences" with the school; the op, and or other readers could have seen that they have absolutly nothing to do with the use and or issues that have been had with the serpa design. However how can a reader and or pottential customer make those choices without knowing the context?...... Additioinally way too few people attend training, and by saying something negative without explaining why pottentially makes somone turn away from training somewhere that could save thier life one day. one reason i am spending less and less time on this forum.......

People like to say big and bold things, but then when they are asked to articulate why they think and or feel a certain way, they are not able to or threads are closed..........

This is my rule of thumb If I didn't Train somwhere, shoot an actual gun, or ammo type, if i haven't BTDT If i don't have actual "FIRST HAND KNOWLEDE" i keep my eyes and ears open and my mouth shut.

I've had one for a 1911 and it was pretty unconcealable. Add in the fact that you can completely jam the gun in the holster with a small rock (about 6mm round) to the point where you'll have to punch the pivot pin out of the holster and nearly destroy it in the process, and it offers nothing I desire in a holster.

Possum,
The thread started to deteriorate very rapidly from opinions of the holster to arguing for & against a particular shooting school/person.

I'd think if you posted a thread asking for opinions about a particular instructor that diverted to arguments for & against a specific holster (in other words, marked thread drift that was no longer addressing the original issue), you'd probably want to see your thread return to the reason you had for posting it.

I think 9 did just fine.
The issue was not what anybody thinks about a shooting school, it was what do people think about a holster.

Denis

How did we get from "Is anyone using a Serpa for everyday concealed carry?" to this?

Talk about thread drift.....

possum said:

i think it is funny that on a forum which is suposed to be writting back and forth between folks, ask questions, state opinions, etc. A mod makes a comment about a school, and i have a serious question as to why they feel the way they do and then the posts are deleated. So what? it got a littel off topic

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Well yeah, it got way off topic. The mod in question deleted his own off topic stuff, along with yours.

It's still off topic even now. If you guys want to debate this, and frankly I value both of your opinions, I'd like to see a thread in the right place for it. I suspect others would too.

TexasRifleman,
You are right, this is off topic, and i am sorry. I have alot respect for you sir, and i will leave this thread be, and push it no farther because of your request.

To compete the draw with weak hand is near impossible.

I use one and haven't experienced any of the issues that others have stated. Although it is a little wide it still conceals easily with just an untucked dress shirt.

I carry a GLOCK 26 everyday...I also tried the serpa many moons back (with whatever GLOCK I was carrying at the time...probably a 19/23 The holster part is fine but the backing/belt plate sticks out too far for a CCW holster...the adjustment in belt slots is a joke to (they may have changed that part) but it never holds...don't care if you loctite red the screws! I've heard it's nominally better with the paddle attachment...but I think it would still stick out too far.

The $15 GLOCK holster is definately worth a try...I've used em off and on over the years...they do the job -and at a great price. What I've come to like is actually the Bianchi 82 Carrylok leather holsters...I have one for about everything I carry...in IWB Crossbreed supertuck is the way to go IMHO...which I use some of the time and LOVE on weekend trips where deeper concealment makes me more comfortable traveling (I have one that actually hides a G21SF in relative comfort!)...9-5 mon-fri I tend to like the 82 carrylock though (and the 26 with a pearce PG-39+2 on the mag)...I can't tell you how many 82 carryloks I've had over the years...the closest I ever came to wearing one out was a 5" 1911 worn EDC for about 2 years...and it was still servicable but it was getting soft and probably due for replacement when I gave it away.

Once you get used to the paddle slap you don't even notice it...and four-wheeling in the woods ect I like knowing it's going to be where I left it -even if I take an unplanned flight over a stump off the ATV ect (it happened-LOL) or whatever else may otherwise jar one's weapon free of it's holster unexpectedly. It's also as fast as an opentop and reholsters like a dream...and being basically a modified pancake holster it rides very comfortably on a good belt.

I have 2 Serpas, one is their concealed version and the other is their level II duty version. I have had no problems with mine. When I was at FLETC for a firearms instructors program there were several uniformed officers and investigators with them in one form or another.

I have several friends that went to defensive school in Tenn and they said they would not allow serpia holsters to be used because of incidents of the finger ending up on the trigger when drawed.

I have several friends that went to defensive school in Tenn and they said they would not allow serpia holsters to be used because of incidents of the finger ending up on the trigger when drawed.

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Sounds more like a problem with bad habits than gear.

SOCOM has approved the Serpa for use. Good enough for me.

If students have problems with muscle memory drills, they either need more practice or different instructors. The old excuse about instructors banning the Serpa makes about as much sense as banning Glocks because they will fire when you put your finger on the trigger when you don't mean to.

Yup. Sure will.

If your finger ends up on the trigger when you're drawing, you need to retrain yourself not to do that.

I like Serpa holsters because they offer a good platform for a variety of weapons and for a variety of uses with exactly the same drawing style and feel. I can use the paddle or belt holster for concealed carry for my G19 or P99, I can use a Level 3 duty belt Serpa for work with my G17, and I can use the thigh rig for my M9. Different guns on different platforms, but one unified method of drawing. That's hard to find elsewhere. A thumb break works well for CCW but probably isn't the best for a thigh rig. A Safariland stlye forward-rotating hood might be great for a thigh rig or duty belt, but not for CCW. To me, Serpas offer the most modularity and similarity for all of the holster needs I have so far.