Favorite Modern Battle Rifle: Beside AR or AK

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The battle between AK and AR has oulasted the Cold War. It has been debated ad nauseum online and shows no sign of having a clear winner. So enough about those two rifles.

My question is beside the two aforementioned rifles the AK and the AR, What is your favorite modern battle rifle?

Let's define "modern" as WWII or later conflicts.
Base your answer on COMBAT use NOT shooting TARGETS.

Feel free to expalin the reason for your selection.
 
The following are not ranked in any particular order of preference:
Civilian Browning BAR in 30.06 or .308
Remington 7400 in 30.06 or .308
Ruger Mini 14 or 30
Remington model 700 in 30.06, .308 win., or .270 win.
Winchester model 70 in 30.06, .308 win., .270 win.
M1 Garand
M1-A
M-14
 
The FN FAL .308 would be my pick---reliable, accurate, soft recoiling in a well proven package.
 
Ok according to your time period, this is the oldest of the "modern" battle rifles. My favorite is the M1 Garand even if we were including the AR (M16 and variants) and the AK. Its combat performance was spectacular (even with the distinctive 'cling') and the soldiers who used it made up the greatest generation of Americans and did more than their share to ensure freedom for others. In my mind, the
M1 set a standard that no rifle since has lived up to, and it will be hard for any combat rifle to ever accomplish its mission the way this fantastic rifle did.
 
L1A1 (SLR) with a 30-round Bren magazine ... reminds me of days long past.

:)
 
FN FAL
HK91

accurate, reliable, durable, hard-hitting ammo.

BUll-pup rifles are cool too and if we can include bolt guns, the AW G22.


Honestly, my favorite besides an AK is a M110, but you said no AR's...
 
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The Vz. 58 is a 7.62mm assault rifle designed and manufactured in Czechoslovakia and accepted into service in the late 1950s as the 7,62 mm samopal vzor 58 ("7.62mm submachine gun model 1958"), replacing the vz. 52 self-loading rifle and the 7.62x25mm Tokarev vz. 24 and vz. 26 submachine guns. The vz. 58 externally resembles the Soviet AK-47 but is internally a completely different design based on a short-stroke gas piston.
Development of the weapon began in 1956; leading the project was chief engineer Jiří Čermák assigned to the Konstrukta Brno facility in the city of Brno. The prototype, known as the "Koště" ("broom"), was designed to chamber the intermediate Soviet 7.62x39mm M43 cartridge, rather than the Czech 7.62x45mm vz. 52 round, used in both the earlier vz. 52 rifle and the vz. 52 light machine gun. The assault rifle entered service in 1958 and over a period of 25 years (until 1984), over 920,000 weapons had been produced, fielded by the armed forces of the Czechoslovakia, Cuba and several other Asian and African nations.
The vz. 58 was produced in three main variants: the standard vz. 58 P (Pěchotní or "infantry") model with a fixed buttstock made of a synthetic material (wood impregnated plastic, older versions used a wooden stock), the vz. 58 V (Výsadkový—"airborne"), featuring a side-folding metal shoulder stock, folded to the right side, and the vz. 58 Pi (Pěchotní s infračerveným zaměřovačem—"infantry with infrared sight"), which is similar to the vz. 58 P but includes a receiver-mounted dovetail bracket (installed on the left side of the receiver) used to attach an NSP2 night sight; it also has a detachable folding bipod and an enlarged conical flash suppressor.

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

I've got the airborne version - no complaints whatsoever.............

Isher
 
I really like the handling of the AR-70/90, but even better is the StG45. I haven't shot an StG44, but I expect it's similar - the 45 just points really naturally for me, has nice soft recoil, and big easy controls.

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HK-91 hands down.

As to the AR/AK debate in my opinion it's no contest the AR is the clear winner, accurate to 350M the AK is a pie plate 100M rifle and not near as "durable" as many profess it to be as I've seen all manner of them jam (not often granted) and they're horribly inaccurate, rust easily, have junk for sights etc.

Having said that I own two AKs because of the fun factor.
 
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As to the AR/AK debate in my opinion it's no contest the AR is the clear winner, accurate to 350M the AK is a pie plate 100M rifle and not near as "durable" as many profess it to be as I've seen all manner of them jam (not often granted) and they're horribly inaccurate, rust easily, have junk for sights etc.
most folks claim their ak's are 2-3" 100yd groupers
 
most folks claim their ak's are 2-3" 100yd groupers
Most people are about right. While I have seen some shoot as poorly as about 6in. groups, most seem to keep it in about 3-4in. without trouble, and there probably is a 2" AK out there somewhere. I believe the vast majority of "accuracy problems" are caused by inexperienced and poorly trained shooters. My VZ.58 can shoot sub-2in. groups with stock irons (and ME using them!)...I was really impressed. I am eager to see how it really performs once I put a decent aperture on it, I bet it'll tighten up a bit (I tend to do much better with a peep).

:)
 
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