1903-A3 Questions

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FrankR

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I recently acquired the 1903-A3 pictured below. It cost me nothing, so feel free to bemoan the fact that it's been sporterized.;)

I've done some research, but still have questions about what I should do with it - make it a woods shooter, or try to restore it to original standards (if possible).

In addition to a nicely finished -but ruined - original stock, it has a Remington 03-A3 action (8-43), a Smith-Corona barrel (8-43), 1903 milled trigger guard, a modified bolt handle, Lyman 48C receiver sight and a Lyman front sight. The parkerized finish is quite good. The trigger has either been worked to a nice crisp target feel - or replaced with an aftermarket trigger assembly (haven't taken it down to see, yet).

Question 1: Does the Lyman 48C receiver sight being D&T'd eliminate the possibility of the receiver ever being considered period correct?

Question 2: Does the Smith-Corona barrel eliminate the possibility of the rifle being period correct?

If if can be returned to a correct military significance without spending more than what it would be worth, I'm willing to do that and add it to my military collection. If not, I would like to make it into a woods beater and enjoy shooting it without any associated guilt. Any opinions welcomed:

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The rifle is now at the gunsmith shop - I asked him to parkerize the bolt handle and jewel the bolt. I know the bolts weren't originally jeweled, but my initial thought was to restock it, remove the Lyman sights, D&T for quality scope mount, add a scope and make a deer rifle out of it.

Permission to Bubba, Sir?

Frank
 
It is not unusual to see S.C. barrels on Remington actions. They were making war time rifles, not setting up a collectors club.
That rear sight and front sight set up were top dollar affairs. Back when they were new. Both have me drooling because I like old peep sights.
Back around 1960 or 61 my dad set up his Rock Island 1903 with those sights and a custom thumbhole stock. Plus he polished and deep blued the action and barrel. He hunted moose with that rifle for many years and it still hangs on his wall.
 
The Drilled & Tapped receiver makes a collector grade GI restore impossible.

Just clean it up and enjoy it for what it already is now.

rc
 
Thanks for the replies.

I thought the Smith Corona barrel might be ok to mix with the Remington action, but I wasn't sure. The only thing I can't get around are the holes in the receiver for the Lyman sight. I've seen several '03s in original full stocks with Lyman and Williams aperture sights, but didn't know if that was ever a modification done for military use. If not, I guess the only thing I have is a barrel as a starting point and hardly worth scrounging parts and building a rifle around it.

Yes, the Lyman 48C was the ticket in the early days. I'm 66 years old and remember them well - but they were easier to use with younger eyes. I like them for paper target shooting, but a scope probably makes more sense now. I see the 48Cs are going for a pretty penny on ebay and such, so I'll probably sell them if I put a scope on the rifle.

Another question: Is there a quality set of 2-piece bases that work with a good choice of scopes in a very low mount position? I like the more open look of the 2-piece bases over the 1-piece Leupold, Redfield and such, but if the likes of the Weaver Grand Slam (or others) are too limiting or not stable, I'll use a 1-piece. I do want any scope mounted as low as possible. Any recommendations?

Frank
 
That rifle is easily restorable to a military configuration and it will look good.

I have never seen a Remington A3 with a SC barrel, in the past I have found new in the wrap Remington barrels, they are out there if you want them. But if the barrel is in great internal shape, leave it on. Lots of A3's were rebarreled, so what.

If the dovetail is still on your receiver you can mount a new rear sight. I did that with this stripped receiver. I started with a lot less and now have a decent shooter.

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You can put screws into the thread holes. Won't look that bad and maybe someone will want a A3 drilled and tapped for a Lyman 48 C.

You will need upper band, upper stacking swivel, lower band complete, lower handguard ring, and a M1903 front sight blade. Your front sight base is a 03 not an A3 base.

I purchased lots of parts from Thomas J. Mulligan, [email protected]
PHONE 516-431-6628, maybe he has al the parts you need. .

You can find nice replacement stocks and handguards from the CMP.
 
I say it is really sweet the way it is, and that it has some history is a bonus. With the D&T I wouldn't bother would redoing it. Be grateful for a really nice sporterization job and a classy sight.
 
I'd leave it as is... good iron sights can be surprisingly effective. Plus it's nice and light, even lighter than the GI version. It'll kick, though. ;)

SlamFire, that's loverly. :cool:

03s make great deer rifles, I have one myself in .270. buttery-smooth action.
 
Whether you re-mil or re-bubba it, cost will be substantial. I can think of a number of chores.

Re-mil: Buy stock, bands, bottom metal, sights, bolt. Close screw holes with weld and parkerize if you are serious, plug screws if not.

Re-Bubba: D&T for scope, buy scope and mount, buy scope safety, buy stock with scope height comb. Might have to re-bend bolt handle if it does not clear your desired low scope.

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Sure is a pretty piece of walnut on a surplus rifle, isn't it? Cost you hundreds on a new sporter for tiger stripe like that.
The punch mark on the ledge under the serial number is a proof mark, likely for the SC barrel.

Me? I'd be at the gunsmith's seeing if we could adapt a fibre optic front sight and just stick with the peep rear.
 
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I'd take it in a heart-beat and leave it as it it is. I found an action and spent $400 to restore it to a collectible...then someone took it one day and I had nothing. I'd love to have it back, but I would also love to have yours.
 
I forgot to post this picture - better view of the bolt handle - and you can see why I'm having it parkerized. You can also see the dovetail is still on the receiver:

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I've put a few rounds through it at a 25yd indoor range to make sure it chambers and extracts ok and it does, so I felt the bolt was worth spending a little on. Since I've already asked the smith to jewel the bolt, I think I'll go a little further down the Bubba route..... might even want to use it for a winter project and see if I can cut and recrown the barrel, D&T the scope mounts, rust blue (or re-parkerize) it and restock it myself. I'm always tinkering with something and reinventing the wheel.:rolleyes:

I'm still looking for advice on the scope mounts, if anyone has an idea.

Frank
 
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