Concealed Carry during the GRE (graduate record exam)

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I'm taking the GRE on Monday and have searched and searched but can't find out info about this anywhere.

The company that puts out the test and the campus that it's on both have no weapons/firearms policies but those are trumped by our awesome Colorado concealed carry law. So I can *legally* carry but they can also tell me to go home (and I must obey) if they find out I'm carrying.

I don't think they have metal detectors set up (if so, I can't carry according to the law) but they do mention you might have to empty your pockets before going in. I carry IWB so could probably get around this, but if they ask me to lift my shirt I'm hosed.

I would just leave the gun at home but this is the only place I've ever been to in Denver that actually creeps me out, it's just a really sketchy feeling place and a lot of crime goes on there.

Anyone take the GRE recently? How thorough was their search of you? Thoughts in general on this?
 
I would just leave the gun at home but this is the only place I've ever been to in Denver that actually creeps me out, it's just a really sketchy feeling place and a lot of crime goes on there.

If it is that bad, you shouldn't be going there anyway. Find another location for the GRE. If you don't dare go there in broad daylight without a gun, you probably aren't going to be in a very good state of mind to take the exam.

I would just leave the gun home and focus on doing well on the GRE.
 
If the test administrators note any "irregularities," they are required to report them along with your score to your chosen schools. Given that our colleges and universities are among the most liberal institutions in our nation, your options for admittance would be reduced to on-line colleges and trade schools. In this one case, I wouldn't risk my future. Also, you don't want it to be "on your mind" as a distraction while testing. If it's any consolation, you'll be "armed" mentally.
 
I carried while taking the GRE about three years ago. It wasn't illegal and they weren't going to find out, so I felt I was in the clear. They did not search me or anything like that. Good luck on the exam.
 
This seems like a time you might not want to carry. Got a bud that carries that can meet you after the test to see you out to your car? I hope the situation isn't that bad.

Oh, you need as I do, a lockable storage container for your defensive weapon bolted to your car floor. My current ride is just about done, the next one is going to have a lock box mounted somewhere for those times I have to be away from my PDF.

Clutch
 
Hey Perch - When I took the GRE, nobody searched me or asked me to empty my pockets. They damn sure didn't ask me to lift my shirt! I seriously wouldn't worry about it if it is LEGAL to carry there. My exam was off campus BTW.

Good luck in graduate school, and here's my advice for anyone in your position. You should consider enrolling for a Ph.D. instead of a Master's degree in whatever subject you are interesting in (assuming you can go full time). Why? Because Ph.D. students almost never pay anything in tuition and often collect a stipend (read paycheck) versus the typical Master's student who pays for everything. Complete a couple years of coursework in the Ph.D. program and if you decide you don't want to continue, you can typically walk out the door with a Master's degree anyway. I saw that happen twice in the program I attended. Just something to think about.
 
why carry to the GRE?? too much downside...

i took the GRE a couple of months ago and they did ask me to empty my pockets. they asked me after i emptied them if there was anything else i had on me and if there was to put it in a locker they let you borrow. personally, with the high stakes of getting into graduate school of any sort i would not risk getting kicked out of or not allowed to take the GRE bc i wanted to carry a weapon. you wouldn't want to lose all that money you put down for the test, bc you are not getting it back if you get kicked out. and if you do get kicked out of the test, the schools you apply to would get notified. it is definately not worth your future to carry a gun in there and get kicked out.

first of all, if you are that worried about taking the test in that area, find another place to take it!

second of all, if you can't find anywhere else to take it, have someone waiting on you to walk you out to your car after the test!

it is definately not risking your future of getting into grad school and starting a career to have it show up that you got kicked out of your GRE for having a gun on you!!!!
 
It's cold this time of year in Colorado, right?

You probably own a coat with several interior pockets. The "empty your pockets" thing is probably a formality; I doubt they'd pat you down.

Depending on what you carry, they make undershirt, underwear, and ankle holsters that would work.

It's your call as to whether you'd be more nervous with the gun (that they would ask you to leave and you'd lose your money) or more nervous without it.

*note: I'm not advocating that you do this anywhere it's not legal.
 
Cost/benefit analysis.

Five of clubs is completely right about Ph.D. vs. Master's programs, btw.

John
 
Lots of great insights, everyone. I appreciate it.

I'm not actually worried about an incident, this isn't Flint at night. It'll be a sunny Monday morning and my chances of getting struck by a bus are orders of magnitude higher than being put in a defensive situation with an aggressor.

I'll probably just leave the gun at home so that I don't even need to think about it on test day. I'll have enough on my mind.

As for my program, I'm definitely starting off with with Master's program in electrical engineering at the Colorado School of Mines. If a Ph.D is in my future I can go that route but I'm not sure I want to be in school for that much longer. Two ski seasons are already looking to be somewhat compromised due to this! From what I can tell I'll be all set with stipend/tuition paid for by at least a TA position.

It's kind of an all-or-nothing situation with me. Either I get into Mines and it's paid for, or else I forget the degree altogether and just focus on my business and being a ski bum instead.
 
Well, the point about the Ph.D. was that frequently, many of the classes for a Master's and a Ph.D. are the same.

But the Ph.D. gets all the financial aid. I've had multiple professors advise going a Ph.D. route for just this reason, suggesting "settling" for a Master's if necessary.

J
 
Why would you want to carry a weapon into a location you know doesn't want you to? Why do their rights/wishes not matter?
 
Of course I appreciate the question, but...

... you know that you'll make your own decision, Perch, and it will be right. You're the only one in position to make the right choice for you.

I decide what makes sense for me, I respect my fine fellows at THR but I don't let them make my decisions for me.
 
GMAT Procedures

I took the GMAT several years ago while in college at my campus testing center while other people were taking other grad school type tests. It's not like you get patted down or anything. You get a locker to put your study book, pens, backpack, food, etc and you are given scratch paper and pencils by the testing people. I'm guessing the GRE is on the computer like the GMAT. The testing people honestly don't like you reaching in your pockets while taking your test. If you wear eye glasses you'll need them on to take in with the scratch paper. There will be cameras in the test center to see if you are cheating. If you say have a cold, they will probably go so far as make you take your cough drops out of the wrapper and put on the scratch paper before the test. I had that happen to me!

Yes, you could carry a gun into the GMAT/GRE more than likely and no one would know as long as it is small and concealed on your person, say on your ankle, if you are uncomfortable with leaving a firearm in your vehicle. I would not leave my handgun in their lockers.

The nothing in your pockets is to keep people from cheating. I'm sure you would be DQ'ed from the GRE if someone saw your gun, but you would have failed at concealing it well and keeping quiet. Your choice if the place is otherwise legal.
 
for next time

The GRE doesn't allow you to use calculators, or access the internet to look up words or concepts. They will tell you to turn off all your electrical devices, and silence all alarms.

Usually, you can keep your iphonepods and your nintendodroids in a backpack, along with cans of soda, as long as they don't come out during the test.

One approach would be to bring a knife (presuming knives are legal). If they have a metal detector, go back to your car to ditch the knife and anything else.

As for getting caught - it actually depends on the person catching you, and whether they believe guns are illegal and bad. For some proctors, it wouldn't register.
 
Why would you want to carry a weapon into a location you know doesn't want you to? Why do their rights/wishes not matter?

Maybe he figures his life is worth more than thier wishes? Maybe they should consider respecting his rights/wishes also.
 
carrying concealed while taking the GRE??:banghead::banghead::banghead:

leave it at home or in the car....geez :rolleyes:
 
Well, I ended up taking it this morning. I could have (and should have) carried. No metal detectors or anything at all. Sure, I was videotaped during the test, but it's not like I was going to be polishing my gun during the break.

I'm really of the mind that I simply carry 100% of the time so long as it's legal. In Colorado a business, park, or whoever can have giant signs saying that all firearms are banned under all circumstances but they carry no legal weight whatsoever.

We can carry everywhere except where Federal law prohibits (schools, USPS) and where there are permanent metal detectors (random wanding does not count).

Anyhow, getting off topic. Hopefully this information proves useful for anyone else wondering about the subject as I found none during my search. And I did take it at the Auraria campus.
 
No personal offense, but why you would even be thinking of carrying to your exam is beyond my comprehension. Instead of worrying about concealed carry during an upcoming exam, I'd be focused on studying instead. Furthermore you want to be focused on your task at hand, not worrying about whether it will be discovered. In this instance get your priorities straight so you can take the next big step toward your future.
 
I deleted my rant earlier, but I just can't take it any more. I cannot believe what I'm reading here. The original poster clearly stated that it is LEGAL to carry at the test site and that the test is given at "a really sketchy feeling place and a lot of crime goes on there." A whopping 10 responses have told him he should not carry. Why?

No personal offense, but why you would even be thinking of carrying to your exam is beyond my comprehension

It sounds to me like he wants to survive the walk to and from the car!

Instead of worrying about concealed carry during an upcoming exam, I'd be focused on studying instead

I have taken the GRE and I cannot think of any possible way to study for it. I did review an old test, but there wasn't a book I could read (that I could find at the time) that would help. The exam I took wasn't centered on determining what a person knows, more like how much capacity a person has to solve problems.

Furthermore you want to be focused on your task at hand, not worrying about whether it will be discovered

Carry your weapon concealed just like you would at McDonalds. What else is there to say? Strap in on, then leave it alone. It's not like you're doing something wrong, or trying to make it through a search undetected.

In this instance get your priorities straight so you can take the next big step toward your future

I think he had his priorities perfectly straight. He wanted to avoid being killed in a place he sees as a bad part of town so he could potentially further his education in the future. Bravo! I would literally beg my wife to CCW in that situation, and if she wouldn't then I would take the day off and escort her.

In short, I clearly don't see what I am missing. What is it about the GRE that turns a PRO-2A forum into a flock of sheep? I carry CONCEALED wherever it is legal. Period. Why is that so hard to understand, especially since this forum is crammed full of gun people?
 
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