W L Johnson
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All this is making want to go out and buy another Taurus 
Can't Taurus make up their mind? Why so many models?
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wally
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They list a lot of Models, but have few if any of some of them. The 9mm PT1911 has been listed since the .45ACP model first came out, but I've never actually seen or heard of one for sale. The PT1911 in .38 Super is easy to find (for a .38 Super), I've got one and its remarkably good out of the box. Can't say how durable it is since I don't shoot a lot of .38Super -- too hard to find the empties among all the 9mm at our club.
I'd probably get one of the 800 models if the price was right, but spare mags for them seem hard to find and hence expensive when you do, so this holds me back.
I'd probably get one of the 800 models if the price was right, but spare mags for them seem hard to find and hence expensive when you do, so this holds me back.
larryh1108
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Spoken like a man who is clueless. It makes me wonder how much real substance is in all of those posts he's made.
Nushif
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I have one of those. So far has performed flawlessly. And you can carry it cocked and locked.
jimmymorocco
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Gottta respond to the Taurus trasher's I've owned a number of em over the years and all have been reliable accurate firearms revolver or auto I currently have a Tracker 4" in .41 mag and ma well pleased to use it as my backpacking firearm. I will admit I bought a .357 snub nose with fixed site's years ago and got rid of it the next day. It shot 2"low and 3" right or left, I forget which, but that was at 15' so the gun was worthless to me. I think it was a 605??? model. AS far as their web site goes it seems easy enough to navigate, I like all the choices, wouldn't it suck to have only a few, variety is the spice of life with gun's or girls, so many choice's so little MONEY!!!!!!!
Zach S
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Yeah... I haven't been to the S&W site in a while, for the same reason I don't go to the Taurus website.
I figure I've got better odds of finding what I want in the store than on the website.
30+ years in the business in one way or another.
Try a few more brands before you call me clueless.
I grow less and less enthused by all the new and wonderful "Modern" guns every day.
Most of the "New" stuff coming on the market is overpriced garbage plain and simple but you buy what you want and enjoy it.
Don't let my negativity affect your choices, I certainly don't.
Try a few more brands before you call me clueless.
I grow less and less enthused by all the new and wonderful "Modern" guns every day.
Most of the "New" stuff coming on the market is overpriced garbage plain and simple but you buy what you want and enjoy it.
Don't let my negativity affect your choices, I certainly don't.
I have a few issues with my PT145, first is what do they use to insert roll pins? It looks like they used vocational school students to assemble my gun. Those of us that are used to working/inspecting assemblies are used to what quality should look like. This looks like some of the cheap Chinese junk I see in the hospital.
My second issue is the fact my PT145 doesn't seem to like feeding HP's that well, maybe it's the magazines? I don't know yet I haven't really obsessed over it, I just carry one HP chambered and the rest FMJ's which it has never choked on in 300 rounds.
I like the way I shoot the PT but also dislike the trigger....eh....whatcha gonna do?
JR47
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I've been working in and around handguns and long-guns for close to 50 years now. That includes sales, distributor end work, and manufacturing/assembly work. I have a collection commensurate with that tome frame, as well.
Such remarks generally show a simple fact. The posters are virtually clueless.
I have Taurus hand-guns that I've owned longer than the poster has "been in the business, one way or the other". They have never seen the factory since assembly, and have been used to teach shooting to newcomers. No Safe Queens.
It's kind of amusing how the people who make such sweeping pronouncements just carry along a smug rejoinder, but no factual basics.
To be quite frank, I own a pair of Korths, and a Korriphila. They make the Boutique guns of Brown, Baer, Wilson, NIghthawk, and STI all look like they were fitted with hammers, and finished with a coarse file. Compared to them, there isn't a manufacturer who makes a gun that isn't "crap" for under $5000. So, worrying about the performance difference of a $700 gun vs. a $500 gun won't work.
Taurus makes a number of models, with different SKUs, due to the goofy patchwork of laws in this country. They aren't alone. Ruger has different model sku's for low-capacity/ high capacity models, and for blued and stainless guns. They also produce different versions by safety.
S&W has always been famous for the plethora of model numbers. Usually people like the choices. It's a shame that we seem to have interested so many "we should only have "X" number of choices."
Gunmakers long ago abandoned the automotive style marketing. It's not like buying an Impala, where you can option it out, and still call it an Impala.
Taurus has had a lot of issues with QC but they have a lifetime warranty, because you will use it,lol
Jokes aside they are not my favorite gun in the world, not really that they are bad just not into their style, so that's a personal thing. They do have a great customer support and the company I work for sells a lot of them. We have had to send quite a few back but they fix the problem and they are actually pretty fast. They are a lot faster than S&W and Ruger.
I had a PT45 it was a nice feeling gun for carry but not fun to shoot, long hard trigger but it was made that way for safety. It was built as a defense gun not target, so no big deal. Only reason I ever sold it was because a family member just loved it no one had them in stock and he gave me $20 more than what I had in it. I was ready to buy a glock but low on funds, so a win,win.
Jokes aside they are not my favorite gun in the world, not really that they are bad just not into their style, so that's a personal thing. They do have a great customer support and the company I work for sells a lot of them. We have had to send quite a few back but they fix the problem and they are actually pretty fast. They are a lot faster than S&W and Ruger.
I had a PT45 it was a nice feeling gun for carry but not fun to shoot, long hard trigger but it was made that way for safety. It was built as a defense gun not target, so no big deal. Only reason I ever sold it was because a family member just loved it no one had them in stock and he gave me $20 more than what I had in it. I was ready to buy a glock but low on funds, so a win,win.
notjustanothermini
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i tell ya what, i had bought a millpro, PT145pro. which was my first striker fired poly frame gun. later on i bought some more poly striker fired guns. ;for instance3 i obught a sr40 just 4 days ago.
compared to the pt145pro, i am disapointed in the sr40. now the sr40 compared to a glock, yeah its a champ. pisses on a glock.
let me explain. all the things on the millpro, that i basically felt that taurus read my mind and made a gun and came up with the pt145pro. that i come to love are absent in damn near every poly gun out there, even sigs and HK's. (dare i say it?)
PT145=second strike DA/SA type trigger, really love the SA pull it clean, crisp, and light.
SR40= i guess people say its a good trigger, but compared to MillPro 45 it sucks. like really sucks.
LOADED CHAMBER INDICATOR (LCI)= both guns have them, but the taurus is botter done. nice and sleek, easy to see and does not stick out like sore thumb. ruger, got a big goofy "flag" sticking out the top of the slide. i also dont like the top of the slide spot as i feel, and opinion based in theory only, that the casing is less supported than the MillPro 45.
FIRE CONTROL HOUSING= both guns have them of course!! but the ruger is made out of plastic and even looks not good, it looks more like "china" crap. the taurus has an all steel FCH and the FCH on the taurus also has rails on it and the slide engages these and rides on these rails as well as the camblock rails.
get both guns apart (MillPro & Taurus) and try and forget about who makes what, look at them like they are both new proto type frames and FCH assembly's made by __________ <----name of your favorite gun maker here) and you get to pick which design stays and which one get canned, i guarantee that you would pick the PT145pro frame as the one thats the one to use.
SAFTIES==both have the same number of safeties, witht he ruger having the MAG DC safety. but i removed mine, so forget about that. they both have the " Little Trigger Within A Trigger" thing, the SR$) you can see its on the front of the trigger, and on the taurus it is on the back of the trigger. both have drop safeties, and pin block safeties, and manual slide lock safties. The Taurus manual safety is easier to manipulate with a true shhoting grip.
the STRIKER ASSEMBLY===of course both have them,,DUH. lol but the taurus again looks by far more "sturdy" or "expensive Looking" design. and for christ sakes they have lifetime warranties, ruger actually says they choose not to warranty their work.
now i know i will hear " thats cuzz rugers dont need a warranty" well thats B.S. you all know that.
i bought the millenium pro used for $215. before tax, becasue the previous owner i was told, adjusted the rear sights without heating the locktite and stripped the screw out when it was finally loosened. also he just beat them were he wanted them with a regular hammer. no protection at all, so it was dinged up nicked up and had hammer blow marks all ove the back of it.
taurus told me the gun was only bought new in 6/2010 and they sent a fed ex guy to my house the nest day, sent it off and they replaced the entire slide for free, and they picked up the shipping also.
i might sound like a ruger basher here in this post,, but i tell ya for real im not. my first gun ever was a mini-14, heck, look at my name. also i have and love a super black hak shorty barrel in .454 and sr9c and sr40, p945 and 10/22 charger. i only own one taurus.
i love ruger, but the pt145 in my eyes is the better gun, more "defined" in a class of its own.
i am partial to ruger, but im the kind of guy who calls it like i see it, i am not afraid to say that the maker of the majority of my handguns/rifles designs are not quite like the designs of a maker of one of my guns. now i open the flood gates of taurus bashing.
compared to the pt145pro, i am disapointed in the sr40. now the sr40 compared to a glock, yeah its a champ. pisses on a glock.
let me explain. all the things on the millpro, that i basically felt that taurus read my mind and made a gun and came up with the pt145pro. that i come to love are absent in damn near every poly gun out there, even sigs and HK's. (dare i say it?)
PT145=second strike DA/SA type trigger, really love the SA pull it clean, crisp, and light.
SR40= i guess people say its a good trigger, but compared to MillPro 45 it sucks. like really sucks.
LOADED CHAMBER INDICATOR (LCI)= both guns have them, but the taurus is botter done. nice and sleek, easy to see and does not stick out like sore thumb. ruger, got a big goofy "flag" sticking out the top of the slide. i also dont like the top of the slide spot as i feel, and opinion based in theory only, that the casing is less supported than the MillPro 45.
FIRE CONTROL HOUSING= both guns have them of course!! but the ruger is made out of plastic and even looks not good, it looks more like "china" crap. the taurus has an all steel FCH and the FCH on the taurus also has rails on it and the slide engages these and rides on these rails as well as the camblock rails.
get both guns apart (MillPro & Taurus) and try and forget about who makes what, look at them like they are both new proto type frames and FCH assembly's made by __________ <----name of your favorite gun maker here) and you get to pick which design stays and which one get canned, i guarantee that you would pick the PT145pro frame as the one thats the one to use.
SAFTIES==both have the same number of safeties, witht he ruger having the MAG DC safety. but i removed mine, so forget about that. they both have the " Little Trigger Within A Trigger" thing, the SR$) you can see its on the front of the trigger, and on the taurus it is on the back of the trigger. both have drop safeties, and pin block safeties, and manual slide lock safties. The Taurus manual safety is easier to manipulate with a true shhoting grip.
the STRIKER ASSEMBLY===of course both have them,,DUH. lol but the taurus again looks by far more "sturdy" or "expensive Looking" design. and for christ sakes they have lifetime warranties, ruger actually says they choose not to warranty their work.
now i know i will hear " thats cuzz rugers dont need a warranty" well thats B.S. you all know that.
i bought the millenium pro used for $215. before tax, becasue the previous owner i was told, adjusted the rear sights without heating the locktite and stripped the screw out when it was finally loosened. also he just beat them were he wanted them with a regular hammer. no protection at all, so it was dinged up nicked up and had hammer blow marks all ove the back of it.
taurus told me the gun was only bought new in 6/2010 and they sent a fed ex guy to my house the nest day, sent it off and they replaced the entire slide for free, and they picked up the shipping also.
i might sound like a ruger basher here in this post,, but i tell ya for real im not. my first gun ever was a mini-14, heck, look at my name. also i have and love a super black hak shorty barrel in .454 and sr9c and sr40, p945 and 10/22 charger. i only own one taurus.
i love ruger, but the pt145 in my eyes is the better gun, more "defined" in a class of its own.
i am partial to ruger, but im the kind of guy who calls it like i see it, i am not afraid to say that the maker of the majority of my handguns/rifles designs are not quite like the designs of a maker of one of my guns. now i open the flood gates of taurus bashing.
JR47
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Where did that come from? No wonder people have trouble keeping up.
I don't understand the question! Isn't the first quote from your post?
Marshall
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And here I thought this Taurus thread was about Fords.
JR47
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No, and that was why my "other post" was included. To show that I never referred to either gun as poorly fitted or finished. It was onmillo who presumed to offer that.
harmon rabb
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ruger says that because some lawyer thought it would be a good idea to say that. the truth is, ruger has a lifetime warranty, even if they claim they don't. if your ruger breaks, they'll fix it on their dime.
Double Naught Spy
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Not everyone has a Henry Ford mentality.
Is having too many models making it hard for you to make up your mind? You want some corporate schmoe to make it up for you by offering you less options? Interesting.
Heaven forbid a manufacturer should give you more choices that you want at this minute. The only things they should offer are what you want right now! Of course, right now not everyone wants the same thing, so to keep or gain market share, they have to offer multiple models.
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