10mm/40sw revolver????

fourtycal · Jan 2, 2011

Okay, maybe I lost my mind. But...........

Why doen't anyone offer a revolver in 10mm/40 sw?

Kind of of along the lines of 38/357mag. Ie (Short case/ long case same diameter).

I realize "clips" might be needed to hold rounds in the cylinder, but with modern manufacturing that shoud not be a problem.

This would give us "Glock Guys" a small revolver for our wifes that that can use Ranger Ts from a 4in barrel.
Revolvers are the only thing my wife can carry safely.

Am I crazy or is this a good idea?

comments???????

thanks

jon86 · Jan 2, 2011

Welp, here you go:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/other/ProductPR/Model 610.pdf

Not exactly small though. It's built on an N frame.

General Geoff · Jan 2, 2011

Yep, been done. Smith & Wesson 610. I have one, fantastic gun. Uses moon clips for fast loading and ejection, and to shoot .40 S&W; you can shoot 10mm Auto without moon clips (headspaces off the case mouth), but ejection is a pain.

Nobody makes a smaller one of which I am aware. Smith does offer the 310 which is a scandium alloy frame, considerably lighter than a 610 but still the same (large) frame size.

fourtycal · Jan 2, 2011

Do you like the gun General?

You said "fantastic" but is it accurate? I have never even heard that sw makes such a animal.

BTW How many stars do you have?

MikeJackmin · Jan 2, 2011

I recall reading that the 40 is unsuitable for use in small revolvers. The sharp recoil causes bullets to jump the crimp and tie the gun up

General Geoff · Jan 2, 2011

Do you like the gun General?

You said "fantastic" but is it accurate? I have never even heard that sw makes such a animal.

BTW How many stars do you have?

I do like the gun. Mine is a 6.5" barrel with a Hi-Viz fiber optic front sight.

It is exceedingly accurate. I've hit balloons out past 100 yards with it in a sitting position. I suspect the gun is more accurate than I am.

I have no stars, as I am not affiliated with any branch of military, domestic or foreign. It's just a nickname I acquired in grade school that I used as my online handle.

WC145 · Jan 3, 2011

I recall reading that the 40 is unsuitable for use in small revolvers. The sharp recoil causes bullets to jump the crimp and tie the gun up

I've never heard of such a thing. I have a S&W 646, a 6 shot L-frame in .40, which is not a small gun and neither is the N-frame 610. As far as I know the 646 is the only revolver that's been offered in that caliber (other than the 610, which shoots 10mm & .40). I've never had any issues with ammo and, like I said, haven't heard of anyone else having problems either.

dnovo · Jan 3, 2011

Like many out of production guns, the Smith 610 is now hard to locate and not cheap to purchase. I have shot the snot out of mine, with both the 40S&W as well as 10mm. Accurate and well built gun.

I also have a Blackhawk Buckeye Convertible in 10/38-40. Another great shooter, but even harder to find than a 610. Dave

General Geoff · Jan 3, 2011

Like many out of production guns, the Smith 610 is now hard to locate and not cheap to purchase.

610s and 310s are in current production. I purchased mine in 2008.

dnovo · Jan 3, 2011

Really? The 310 is but the 610 is not listed at the company website nor in stock at any distributor. 2008 isn't 2011. If you can find a new one on a dealer's shelf, I'd grab it. Dave

General Geoff · Jan 3, 2011

Smith & Wesson must have recently revamped their site; the 610 was still on it as of a few months ago...

That said, they do still have the 310 Night Guard, which is a fine revolver as well.

9mmepiphany · Jan 3, 2011

If you don't need the full power of the 10mm and you think the N-frame a little large, you could try to find a S&W M-646 which is chambered in .40 and built on the L-frame

dnovo · Jan 3, 2011

Good luck finding a 646, they make the 610 look as common as clay. They were only produced for a very short time in very small numbers. They fetch a hefty premium if you can find them and are quick enough to jump on one before someone beats you to the punch. Dave

Mossyrock · Jan 3, 2011

If you want something different and want to spend some money, Dave Clements with turn a .357 Mag GP-100 into a 10mm. I have one. Great gun....but still no lightweight.

http://www.clementscustomguns.com/rugerdarevolvers.html

Loyalist Dave · Jan 3, 2011

Is it silly then to wish they made a five-shot, snub nosed, hammerless, stainless revolver in .40 S&W the way they made the S&W 940 in 9mm? I think it would make a good backup, but maybe my philosophy on what should be in a backup handgun is too much "fuddy duddy" thinking?

LD

Balrog · Jan 3, 2011

610s and 310s are in current production. I purchased mine in 2008

The current ones are not desireable because of the lock.

Sam1911 · Jan 3, 2011

The current ones are not desirable because of the lock.

Well that would be up to the purchaser. Not desirable to you, apparently. Perfectly fine for someone else, most probably. For the OP? That's up to him.

I've had no trouble with the lock, but I don't have much more than 10-12,000 rds through a wheelgun with one, so the jury's still out, I guess.

Balrog · Jan 3, 2011

Not desirable to you, apparently.

Or anyone else who collects S&W's, most probably. And not desireable is probably a strong phrase, it really should simply be less desirable.

I know people who collect various models and subcategories of S&W's, but none who specialize in revolvers with the lock.

Sam1911 · Jan 3, 2011

Right...but the OP was asking about a carry gun for his wife and wasn't aware of the existence of .40/10mm revolvers, S&W or otherwise. So he probably isn't a collector, and probably doesn't care about the desirability from that standpoint.

Trying to keep relevant to the OP's question.

GJgo · Jan 3, 2011

I have a 6.5" 610, I love it. Very accurate & reliable. My friend has a 646 & we've shot them together. The 646 is pretty snappy, but I would LOVE to take it off his hands as a carry piece.

It's my understanding that the 310 is the only current production model, but I see 4" 610s for sale on Gunbroker, etc., fairly often.

All of my S&W revos have locks, but hey, I shoot them- I don't collect them. Only lock related issue I've ever had or seen was with a Scandium Smith. All the steel ones have been 100% IME.

Balrog · Jan 3, 2011

Only lock related issue I've ever had or seen was with a Scandium Smith.

What was the problem?

GJgo · Jan 3, 2011

Well, I had a Scandium N frame 41 Mag that would "activate" the lock from the recoil of heavy loads. The little flag would rotate up & I would have to get out my key to "unlock" it & in order to keep shooting. Ended up trading it off.

WC145 · Jan 4, 2011

If you want something different and want to spend some money, Dave Clements with turn a .357 Mag GP-100 into a 10mm. I have one. Great gun....but still no lightweight.

http://www.clementscustomguns.com/rugerdarevolvers.html

That's pretty cool. A converted 3" GP100 would make for an interesting carry piece. The price isn't too bad considering what I spent to have a scandium S&W snubby converted to 9mm.

Mr.Revolverguy · Jan 4, 2011

Time for me to update the review on my 610 now that I have reloads that work well with it.

http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=1

It shoots 40S&W great and also shoots 10MM without the moon clips if you don't want to fuss with them. Though I love using them.

Balrog · Jan 4, 2011

Well, I had a Scandium N frame 41 Mag that would "activate" the lock from the recoil of heavy loads. The little flag would rotate up & I would have to get out my key to "unlock" it & in order to keep shooting. Ended up trading it off.

You better keep that secret. Some here will accuse you of lying if you say you had a lock activate in error.

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