Is this worthy of sending back to Glock?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I believe glock barrels are tenifered. I don't think you want a gunsmith to re-crown it. My guess is that Glock should replace the barre.

H.
 
You just did to me what you chided me for. Very Omniscient indeed. Not very THR behavior on your part either. I still don't believe either of you. Being as Missouri boy, you are going to have to show me. Isn't this country great that we all don't have to think and believe in lock step agreement. God Bless America!


A conclusion is not a destination, it's simply a convenient place to stop thinking.

Reading a thing doesn't automatically make it so; repeating it doesn't necessarily make it any truer.

Your quotes not mine!
You refuse to believe them? How rich...
 
I believe glock barrels are tenifered. I don't think you want a gunsmith to re-crown it. My guess is that Glock should replace the barre.

H.
How do you know the other side of the barrel, that is not photographed, is not the same? There seems to be a great deal of pure speculation going here absent of many facts. So just why can't a gunsmith work on Tenifer coated steel?" Ar you trying to tell me it can't be milled for different type sights or engraved?
 
Ragtop, your questioning of the effect of a crown on the performance of firearm proves your young age or inexperience or both.

Do yourself and others a favor by a least doing a little bit of reading before posting that someone needs to prove to you the effect of a crown on a firearm. Doubting it blindly is simply mis-information.

OP -send it back or ask for a replacement.
So just what is my age there? What do you know about barrel crowning on Glock rifling? What is acceptable accuracy for a Glock handgun? A lot of arrogant speculation on your part seems to be showing and not very THR friendly at all.
 
This is a healthy Glock barrel crown, pistol is a Gen 4 G19...Second photo is best...If the op's original photo is as it appears, it clearly depicts a damaged and out of spec barrel crown....
 

Attachments

  • all my guns 548.jpg
    all my guns 548.jpg
    277.5 KB · Views: 18
  • all my guns 547.jpg
    all my guns 547.jpg
    290.7 KB · Views: 22
"tenifer" coating

Gentlemen: "tenifer" is the name of clock's proprietary coating they apply to the metal to reduce friction, reduce rusting & corrosion, & the reduction of metal tolerance wear from years of sustained shooting.

It is a coating on the steel & not an alloyed steel specification.

Mr. Glock owner: Ship the barrel to me & i will recut, lap, & polish the muzzle crown for you. The cost will be $45.00 plus shipping. Contact me on pm messaging if you would like this issue to be corrected.
 
Send it Home

Why not just send the barrel to Glock in Smyrna for proper evaluation and remedy. You wouldn't go to a podiatrist for brain surgery, would you?
 
Even if a crown isnt damaged, it doesnt mean that its good. My son had a NIB rossi handy rifle that was acceptably acurate for its intended purpose. A friend offered to recrown it for him, and now it actually shoots respectable groups. The pics the OP posted look to show a bad crown job. Even if it is acceptably accurate, Glock should make good on replacing the barrel for him. Chances are, if you werent upset with it before realizing there was an issue, you will be estatic when everything is right.
 
People always say you get what you pay for. These are very expensive guns so you should get perfection. 100% perfection.
 
Even if a crown isnt damaged, it doesnt mean that its good. My son had a NIB rossi handy rifle that was acceptably acurate for its intended purpose. A friend offered to recrown it for him, and now it actually shoots respectable groups. The pics the OP posted look to show a bad crown job. Even if it is acceptably accurate, Glock should make good on replacing the barrel for him. Chances are, if you werent upset with it before realizing there was an issue, you will be estatic when everything is right.
This is really a stretch comparing a Rossi to a Glock. Talk about apples and oranges!
 
This is just plain Glock Bashing and in very poor taste for THR.

Dont take it personally, I get my guns bashed on here constantly. And $500 is a lot of money. Maybe not to you, but it is to me and if I spent $500 I want perfection. I love glocks and will own one someday, so I am not bashing them at all.
 
I'd be interested to know about the gun's performance.

An earlier responder asked how it shot, but I didn't notice an answer.

As would I but I think that to truly know how the gun is performing you would have to shoot it from a mechanical rest.
 
never take Glock Bashing personal. You will find them in over 80% of the LEO holsters on any given day of the week. Gaston Glock finished what John Moses Browning only started in my opinion. Glock can be purchased new for far less that $500.00 as well, in case you didn't know

Any brand bashing is in total bad taste for the THR forum. That is NOT the intended purpose of this form from what I was told and read in the TOS>

No one is bashing anything except maybe you.

Glocks run anywhere from $400 to LEO and other specified individuals up to about $479 + shipping/transfer/tax if applicable. So unless you are in the group which gets special pricing $500 OTD NIB is about right.
 
As would I but I think that to truly know how the gun is performing you would have to shoot it from a mechanical rest.
From what I am putting together, the G22 was a police trade in, I could be wrong as the OP has been silent since this debate stared.
 
Ragtop-

You're asking a lot of questions and making a lot of assumptions and comments completely unrelated to the original purpose of the thread. You seem to be intentionally trying to derail the original intent here.

But I'll try to enlighten you a little, if you're willing.

First off, barrel crowns and rifling are two different animals. The crown on this specimen being poorly done has nothing to do with Glock's rifling pattern. There's really no relevance in asking about Glock-specific rifling and its relation to how crowns are cut.

Secondly, the crown of any barrel (whether it be on a Glock or a Handi-Rifle) matters for the reason that it is in fact the last point of contact between the barrel and the bullet. The expanding gases propelling the bullet need to escape evenly around the bullet as it leaves the crown in order for accuracy to be maintained. Any unevenness or damage to the crown causes the gases to "bleed" around the bullet in erratic and unpredictable ways at the very last instant of contact. This can throw the bullet into different trajectories.

This may not matter much in a defense situation at contact distance, five feet, or fifteen feet. However, it matters more and more as the distance increases. It is a very big deal if the weapon is ever to be used in a competition setting. There should be no doubt in the mind of the shooter that any hit or miss is the result of the shooter and not because the firearm throws bullets to random points due to a misshapen crown.
 
Last edited:
From what I am putting together, the G22 was a police trade in, I could be wrong as the OP has been silent since this debate stared.

Where did you get that understanding? IIRC Cabeleas does not sell police trade ins. The OP states the gun is NEW.
 
First off, barrel crowns and rifling are two different animals. The crown on this specimen being poorly done has nothing to do with Glock's rifling pattern. There's really no relevance in asking about Glock-specific rifling and it's relation to how crowns are cut.

Secondly, the crown of any barrel (whether it be on a Glock or a Handi-Rifle) matter for the reason that it is in fact the last point of contact between the barrel and the bullet. The expanding gases propelling the bullet need to escape evenly around the bullet as it leaves the crown in order for accuracy to be maintained. Any unevenness or damage to the crown causes the gases to "bleed" around the bullet in erratic and unpredictable ways at the very last instant of contact. This can throw the bullet into different trajectories.

This may not matter much in a defense situation at contact distance, five feet, or fifteen feet. However, it matters more and more as the distance increases. It is a very big deal if the weapon is ever to be used in a competition setting. There should be no doubt in teh mind of the shooter that any hit or miss is the result of the shooter and not because the firearms throws bullets to random points due to a misshapen crown.

Well stated!
 
I'd be interested to know about the gun's performance.

An earlier responder asked how it shot, but I didn't notice an answer.
I noticed that as well. I also could not help noticing all the pure speculation supplied as well. There is a real simple fail safe cure for the problem as I have stated several times. Just send the barrel to Smyrna. If it is fact defective pursuant to their liability, they will replace it free of charge. I just doesn't get any simpler or plainer than that. Maybe I need to say it in German or something.......LOL.:banghead:
 
From what I am putting together, the G22 was a police trade in, I could be wrong as the OP has been silent since this debate stared.

There really isn't any need for any "debate." A question was asked and the answer was given. The crown is defective.

I'd be interested to know about the gun's performance.

An earlier responder asked how it shot, but I didn't notice an answer.

Answered in the OP when he stated he was testing for function by shooting at a used target, therefore accuracy could not be determined.
 
Where did you get that understanding? IIRC Cabeleas does not sell police trade ins. The OP states the gun is NEW.
Ok it is a new gun, but where is the OP now? He did state that he failed to look at it closely upon acceptance. All the more reason to return the barrel to Glock for a free replacement.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top