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A friend's husband died and she found this among his hoard. He served in the Korean War and this is rumored to have been brought back and possibly Russian.

She'd also like to know if it has any value.

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It's a Russian design PPSh submachine gun, which if it is an unregistered fullauto weapon, is worth several years in a Federal prison.
 
Please tell your friend to contact the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) immediately, or to consult an attorney. That is a Russian PPSh submachine gun, or a Chinese copy. Either way, it is illegal to own unless registered. It is possible that her husband registered the gun in the 1968 amnesty, in which case she needs to take steps to get the ownership transferred so she can sell it if she wants. It would be worth a considerable amount of money.

If it is not registered (and BATFE can tell her), it is illegal and she will have to surrender it to the government. There is no legal way she can keep it, none. If she feels uncomfortable dealing with federal agents, she can have an attorney handle the situation. There is zero chance she will be prosecuted or even inconvenienced, but she does need to properly and legally dispose of that gun; it is contraband and she is taking a risk if she knows about it and chooses to do nothing.

Jim
 
It is a shame if it isn't registered. Yet another example of why we need an amnesty for these vet bringbacks. As we lose more WWII and Korean War vets many more unregistered MGs will be found by their survivors.
 
Nope, its a gun. Anyone willing to point it at another human being is a killer. In my hands it would just be a cool toy.
Not making that distinction is what got machine guns demonised and restricted. Lets not continue that mistake.
 
She will contact BATF immediately. Will they know if it was registered? How can that be determined?
 
All MG's that were ever legally registered are on file with the ATF.

I don't know how they know, but they will know.

rc
 
"Nope, its a gun. Anyone willing to point it at another human being is a killer. In my hands it would just be a cool toy.
Not making that distinction is what got machine guns demonised and restricted. Lets not continue that mistake."

As one who has been on the recieving end of one of these, "it's a killer". They missed me but got others in my squad.

I am a big fan of weapons and believe that any American can and should own firearms. And if you can affored a legal one of these, go for it.

I will say no more.
 
Registration Paperwork?

If he did register it during the amnesty period what would that paperwork look like? When going through his files what should she be looking for?
 
If he registered it during the amnesty in 1968, the paper would be a Form 4467, "Registration of Certain Firearms During November 1968". There would be a stamped date and signature (stamped, not hand written) at the bottom, indicating registration was accepted.

Jim
 
Actually, I think it is better to contact BATFE than the local police which some folks advise. BATFE is quite used to the situation and won't go into panic mode like some local cops might, especially in some anti-gun, "kill everyone" area like NYC.

At one time, the feds would bend the rules and allow those guns to be registered if there was no criminal intent; that ended in 1986 when the registry was closed to individuals, so now they have no choice but to confiscate the gun.

Just FWIW, there were reportedly a few cases in 1968 where (then) ATTD returned the amnesty papers but failed to enter the guns in the registry. That is why it is so important for anyone who registered guns in that period to have kept the paper.

Jim
 
Lube it and bury it for the next revolution :)

Seriously, good luck with finding the paperwork, I'm sure it's not something she wants to be dealing with but like some have said, if it is registered it should be fairly valuable.
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