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Leverb66

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ND has a measure up for review that would ban 'hunting over the internet'. I had never heard of this. It sounds incredibly dangerous and well, just lame.

Anyone have any experience with this?
 
Senate Bill 2352 - "...."Hunt through the internet" means to hunt wildlife in real time using internet services to
remotely control actual firearms and to remotely discharge live ammunition allowing a
person who is not physically present to take wildlife."....."Hunting through the internet prohibited - Penalty.
1. A person may not:
a. Hunt through the internet;
b. Host a hunt through the internet;
c. Import, export, or possess wildlife or any part thereof which has been taken by a
hunt through the internet; or
d. Otherwise enable another person to hunt through the internet.
2. A person who violates this section is guilty of a class C felony .
Page"

http://www.ndcourts.gov/court/news/hill/2011/Jan30.htm
 
I had a buddy of mine tell me that there are people out there baiting animals and they would have rifle mounted on some sort of device that could be remotely aimed via you over the internet. So he said "rich people" were paying to get on the net and remotely aim a gun at a baited animal and have "trophy" to put on the wall. Kind of like a "live" hunting video game for grown ups I guess.

At the time I thought he was either full of crap or just miss informed, maybe he was right. Sounds pretty stupid to me, I really didn't think there was anyway it was true. I guess these days you never know.
 
I think it's a double edged sword. I don't like the idea of wealthy, able-bodied people hunting in this fashion.

I do, however, see a great oppertunity for the handicapped and those with ailments that would prevent them from normal hunting.
 
i think even the handicapped should do their best to get out in the woods, there are ranches with handicapped accessable feeders. Thats just plain stupid. I saw a video of a disabled vet hunting hogs with a wheelchair mounted rifle on a mouth controlled remote guarantee he got alot more satisfaction out of that then sitting in his house clicking a mouse.
 
I think the NRA and other organizations (DU, Pheasants Forever, etc) have great hunting programs for the disabled. However there are probably some disabilies that prevent even participating in those programs. That said, this seems really dangerous. I know it could be made somewhat safe, but having a person remotely deciding when the gun goes bang seems like a bad idea.
 
There was a single site that proposed hunting over the internet back in 2004. The HSUS grabbed onto it and has been pushing bans ever since--it gives them some success to claim since their other campaigns to ban hunting don't go over so well.
 
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My god if you cant get your lazy ass out in the field and acutally hunt then just go to the bar and play big buck hunter! Anyone who actually does this is pathetic.
 
the weird thing is......that might very well be the first hunting related thing the hsus has ever done that most hunters would agree with
 
This website www.precisionremotes.com has remote control setups for different weapon platforms. I'd think that's something like the hardware that would be used. It'd be connected to the internet instead of the "GameBoy style controller" that they mention in the linked page.

I think that MI has laws on the books making remote systems like this against the law here, at least when used with firearms.

For a less lethal version, (less expensive too) I like this one. :D
 
This is stoopid. Unless someone is mabye hooked to life support or something ,I would never agree with this crap.
 
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13871696

One instance. At first this was reported to be done over the internet in Georgia, but this article claims it was just a remote setup.

I also remember a website that was live-shot(dot)com a few years ago that no longer exist. They had remote guns set up at a range to fire at targets. After you shot (over the internet) you could pay them a fee and they would send your target to you.
 
I couldnt see what was in that link. But if it was the remote fired shotguns found in the woods in Georgia, that was different than whats being brought up here. Or so said Ga. DNR.
 
Yuppies who can not hunt and have money will always pay big $$ for something they can not produce themselves...I have seen this quite a bit in Texas and from Texans in Oklahoma!
 
I have worked with the folks at Precision Remotes since 2002 and their products could NOT be used for hunting over the internet. You can control all of the motion and optics via RS-232 interface, so you could point it, zoom the cameras, etc. over the internet if you had their software. However, the fire control circuits are on a different circuit board and NOT accessible from the RS-232. Only a live operator with the dedicated remote interface directly connected could enable and fire the weapon.

A company called Foster Miller took the Precision Remotes gun chassis and put it on their Talon robot for the military. That system (called SWORDS, the new version called MAARS) was wireless remote operable and Foster Miller enabled the weapon to be armed and fired from the secure wireless controller, but still not "internet" controlled.

I agree that "internet hunting" has no future, but light weight, man-portable remote weapon systems do have a legitimate purpose for the police and military users.
 
There was a outfit in Texas that would let you target shoot remotely. Hunting remotely was talked about for disabled people and others. It was banned rather quickly here, all remote hunting not just over the internet.
 
Not generally one to side with laws restricting hunting, at first glance I think this is an example to legislators getting it right.

Besides numerous other reasons, safety is in itself a good reason for this. If someone is too lazy to get his/her a## in the field then that person is in my opinion not going to trouble themselves to make certain they are taking a safe shot.

Just my 2¢
 
its probably price prohibitive to have it become a popular enough thing that it puts undue stress on populations... that being said, I dont see a lot of reason behind anyone shooting an animal via a computer
 
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