Hi Point?

They've got one of the best warranties ever (regardless of the problem they will fix or replace the pistol o questions asked, probably figure they will earn more business and profits with that policy than they'll ever lose to warranty service.) and from what I understand they are actually very reliable for such a fugly and inexpensive gun. I remember hearing that they are more accurate than you'd expect too, but I don't know so much about that.

I like good-looking pistols but if I wanted a gun and only had $150-$200, I would consider one of them.

Hi-points make great fish bonkers and are also handy if you need to pound in a few nails, save your money and buy something a little higher quality. I'm not a fan of Rugers but they are leaps and bounds ahead of a Hi-Point, you might also look at a Bersa.

I didn't read all the posts, but I'll address a couple of things that I did see come up.

First, I do have a Hi-Point C-9. It's a good gun for $150.00. If that's what you have to spend, there isn't much else in that price range. I put a couple thousand rounds through mine before I got bored with it and put it up to save for the Zombie uprising. I'll pass it out to a neighbor.

Someone mentioned buying a used gun and you said you didn't want to do that because you wouldn't be able to test fire it. While it's nice to be able to test fire a gun, I suppose, I never have. I've bought dozens of used guns and never gotten but one lemon, a 22 rifle with a bulged barrel. The dealer gave me a full refund on that one. There are stickies about buying used guns both on THR and other forums. Study them a bit, and go looking. By far most guns that get traded in have nothing at all wrong with them. People get tired of them, want something new, need money, etc. At first,particularly, deal with a repuatable dealer, and you don't have much to worry about. I actually prefer used guns now.

I will also say it's been a long time since I've seen a used gun for even close to the price of a Hi-Point. They might exist, but I haven't seen one.

Hi-Point does have a lifetime warranty. Most other gun companies do also, even if it's not in writing. They simply fix anything that is their fault (defective part for example) at no charge. Some pay shipping, some don't. Ruger for example has no written warranty at all. They just fix it if it breaks. Again in all my years, I've needed a warranty one time. That was a Ruger. No charge.

If you just want a gun to shoot at the range, get a 22. The ammo is so inexpensive you'll shoot more. A 9mm would probably be the next best option though.

That's a point I was just going to make, CajunBass.

Whenever you're talking about getting a gun just for the range, you're still talking about shooting it regularly. At that point, the differences in shooting 9mm on a regular basis vs shooting .22lr on a regular basis will MORE than make up the price difference between the guns.

For instance, a Hi-Point C-9, with 500 rounds for it would be about $250.

An inexpensive .22, like a Beretta Neos with 500 rounds for it would cost the same amount.

500 rounds of 9mm will run you about $100.

500 rounds of .22 will run you about $20.

They are good but I prefer the larger model .40 or .45.

Pros/Cons on Hi-Point

I have had two encounters with Hi-Point pistols. The first one I encountered belonged to a friend of mine. I fired it a couple of times--a ho-hum experience. When I asked him about it later, he said the front sight had fallen off.

The second time I encountered a Hi-Point was on the firing line. A student brought one. It jammed the first time he pulled the trigger and regularly thereafter. One of the Instructors lubed it, but it didn't help. The gun won absolutely no fans for Hi-Point that day.

Bottom line for me: I will never own a Hi-Point. For the same money or maybe $50 more, you can buy a used Ruger Mk I or II that will last your lifetime, your kids' and probably your grandkids AND you can afford to shoot it. Plus, compared with a Hi-Point, its lines look like a Ferrari compared to a block of wood.

Mike

My friend has a C9. I've shot it a few times and it wasn't bad. He talked me into buying a Hi-Point .380 which broke before I even had the chance to shoot it. That friend will be buying it off me when it comes back from the factory

Wait till you turn 21. While that is going on get a part time job, save some money and buy a ruger p95.

First handgun i owned was a hi-point c9. Now that i think about it, i wish i did not get rid of it. Big, heavy, ugly as sin, could only put 7 bullets in the mag so it didnt jam, but i will say this.. Accurate. In fact... I will say that compared to a glock.... Heh.. For accuracy, i'd take a hi point. Decent home defense, horrible ccw, pretty good hog gun. Rage forth.

For the record, i agree with 'cat' on the ruger p95, that's actually what im looking into now.

My Hi-Point is very picky about ammo.
I've tried the 115 gr from several mfgs & the gun will have 1-2 FTEs per mag.

On the other hand it is flawless with 124 gr ammo.

One other thing to note, I am much less accurate with it, than I am with my revolvers.
At 10 yards I can always hit the target with my Hi-Point, whereas with my 45 Colt Single Action I can almost always hit the bullseye.

Now is it me? or is it the Hi-Point?
I'm not a fan of plastic-fantanstic, so I guess you can be the judge.

But over all - I'm OK with the Hi-Point.
I'd say I got my money's worth & then some.

HI-Points are ungly as sin and they just Work!

I haven't posted much here, but I do have a Hi Point C9. I bought it new for $139 a couple of years ago, and it has performed very well. The first few hundred rounds I fired through it were PMC 115gr FMJ, and I had no problems. The chamber supports the case very well, no bulging. I have been loading for it, and have found that it likes a shorter OAL for reliable feeding. With the correct OAL I have not found a bullet that it will not feed reliably. My current pet load is a 115gr Rainier Ballistics HP over AA#2 at 1.125" OAL. In my gun this shows no pressure signs, and works like a clock.

Maintenance is much easier than even my revolvers, as I just make sure that the barrel and feed ramp are clean after I use it. I have not had to deal with the manufacturers warranty yet, so I can't comment on that. Overall I think I have about 2,500 rounds through mine with no problems.

Accuracy wise, it is very comparable to a RIA 1911 out of the box.

I don't think you will be making a bad decision buying the C9, but I would not spend over $150 for one. Reliable, Accurate, Chunky.

Ahhhh don't be discouraged by the nay-sayers!

Go ahead and jump on the Hi Point - just be sure to pay the extra $5.00 for the cordless-drill attachment that comes with it ! ! !

I have had my Hipoint js-40 sence 2003 and while it's huge, heavy, and would work as a club if ya run out of ammo I must say it's been a good shooting weapon. Would I carry it into battle? No, maby if I had to but the feed issues I have had negate that. I would carry my smith & wessen if possible. But that said I also think it's a good plinker, it shoots good and while the slide is very big it has been in my collection along time now and won't be leaving soon

My first 9mm was a hi-point c-9. As I have have always said: "The gun did exactly what it was designed to do". I did however sell it about a year later to get a glock 19 which I like much better.

Same here my first was a C9 good little gun even tho they are heavy as a brick they do whats needed, A bullet coming out of something thats 150 or 1500 dollars, well its still a bullet

Look boys and girls, I'm no Einstein when it comes to firearms, or guns as most put it, but, if I read hundreds or thousands of reviews from various sites spouting the pros and cons of a "cheap" firearm such as the Hi-Point C9 and most that I read were pro, what's the problem with them? Is it because they are not made in Austria or Brazil? Is it because they are not a Glock, a Sig, or a Beretta, or a Colt? Not trying to start arguments or peeing contests, I Really am just curious.
Honestly, I really am just curious

I can not answer your question. I own a Hi-Point it is a real good gun a little ammo picky but I know what it likes and that is what I shoot in it. Alot of guys will put down Hi-Point and Taurus two companies with real good waranties and if you follow their procedures good customer service for the most part. These boards are fan sights most fans have the teams they love and the teams they love to hate. These two are just on the love to hate list alot. But thats fine by me. Hell there seems to be alot of Ruger haters latelybut to each their own.

Crap. Pure crap. If you have disposable money and are just looking for some the shooting equivalent of beating your head on a wall, go for it. Otherwise look for a used Glock and forget about Hi-Point garbage.

Most Hi-Point owners report that they are 100% reliable because most Hi-Point owners think a couple hundred rounds over the course of a year or two is a lot and they never run their guns hard.

Hi Points are good as a range toy but i would never think of using it for target shooting, if that is your goal I'd say save for a month or however long it takes and get something better.

I bought a high point 45 handgun and a 9mm carbine new from a pawn shop for $200. The guy seemed like a nice guy and he was begging us to buy something, well I have only shot 2 or 3 mags through the pistol and had no problems and they are fairly accurate, I think because of the fixed barrel, but thats not enough to say its a good gun.
The carbine on the other hand is a great gun, after hundreds of rounds I really like it. It has never jammed with the factory mags (the promag magazines effectively turned it into a single shot).
So since you said you already had a good gun and just wanted advice on a hi point I would say go for it if the price is right, but I wouldnt think about paying much for one.It makes me feel better to say I paid 175 for the carbine and 25 for the pistol.

Look boys and girls, I'm no Einstein when it comes to firearms, or guns as most put it, but, if I read hundreds or thousands of reviews from various sites spouting the pros and cons of a "cheap" firearm such as the Hi-Point C9 and most that I read were pro, what's the problem with them? Is it because they are not made in Austria or Brazil? Is it because they are not a Glock, a Sig, or a Beretta, or a Colt? Not trying to start arguments or peeing contests, I Really am just curious.
Honestly, I really am just curious

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Honestly, they have their flaws. Their large size makes it difficult to impossible to find a holster that properly fits it. It also makes it nigh on impossible to conceal for carry purposes. The single stack mag capacity is minuscule compared to other guns on the market. The pot metal slide will wear itself out 10x faster than the slide on a gun with a steel slide (sure, you can send it back to Hi Point for free repair, but you're out a gun in that time and if they don't cover shipping, then you've already repaid for the gun in shipping costs after a few trips back). Their feed reliability and function, while much better than a Jennings or other such ring of fire groups, and within an acceptable range for most, still isn't equivalent to that of most higher quality guns. There's also the little things like the smoothness and feel of things like the safety lever. On a 1911 it's a nicely contoured easy to reach piece - on a Hi Point it's a more difficult to reach piece of angled metal. Works, but not equivalent.

I'm not saying they're junk, or that they don't do the job for some people. If you can live within it's limitations, then that's great. If you honestly think it's just as good as the brands you're listing off though, then you're just being naive. It has nothing to do with where they come from, or the name. There are actual real issues at hand. Enough to makeup for the price difference? That's for each person to decide themselves.

I WILL say though that anyone who shoots a good deal is going to very quickly spend more on ammunition than the cost of the gun. When taking that into account, I personally see their value diminish. If you shoot high volumes, at least step up to a Ruger, cheaper S&W, or heck even a Taurus. You're looking at a difference of about $125. About 1000 rounds of ammo. Taking my shooting habits into account that's about 6-8 weeks worth of shooting before ammo prices would make up the cost difference between the two.

My Hi-Point is picky about ammo.
It'll eat 124 gr ammo all day, twice on Sunday, and never a hiccup!
115 gr ammo, on the other hand, well... not so much.
It'll jam 2-3 times per magazine.

It's cheap, ugly, and an auto-loader, but as long as I feed it 124 gr ammo, it's flawless.
(from a died-in-the-wool revolver guy - Long live SAA 45 Colts! )