Weapon-system

Reminds me of a corporal I had in basic training, who explained, "In your fragmentation order, be sure to tell your aromatic rifleman to wrap aluminous tape around the front sight."

mustang_steve said:

I understand if the person was in the service, but when a life-long civilian says "weapons system" excessively, to me it sounds like someone who fantsizes about being an "operator".

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I feel the same way, kind of mildly amused when people use the word 'running'. As in, "I'm running a vertical foregrip on my AR15", or, "I'm running a strip of skateboard tape on my revolver grip". What's wrong with "using", or "attaching"?

For those against military speak, I understand. Calling a firearm a "weapon system" is meant to show it for what it is a tool. In the mind it dehuminizes it, so that you can't place blame on those evil black assault rifles.
When you combine shooter, firearm, and area of opperation civilians call it "war" the armed forces call it "combat". Then the media turns it into something its not, like the war on drugs etc...
People will always have opinions and see things differently. The term weapon system, I like, because to me its all encompassing from the MK 101s to the type of projectile that is launched.

I'm with rugerdude on this. In my Military days, if you got caught in the field without your M16A1 by your side (usually always by TOP) he would simply ask, Soldier where's your weapon? I am a Electronic Technician by trade and have been for well over twenty years since my Military days. This means I Troubleshoot, Diagnose AND Repair electronic equipment down to component level. A stereo or TV in itself is not an A/V system although each consist of many different components and to some in this thread, would classify as a system. Today, out of the blue, everybody is some sort of Technician Thank God a Gunsmith is still a Gunsmith. I am studying this craft to supplement my income and into retirement. WHAT IS A GLASS TECHNICIAN?
I have never seen a glass technician repair a shattered car window. That is a part swapper! A true Gunsmith is a Craftsmen. If they ever start calling them Gun technicians I'm throwing in the hat.

To Vern: Did you ever find that HSMG (high speed missle grease) down at the Motor Pool?

BTW I discovered that I had "kit" when I worked with Brit, Aussie and Kiwi blokes!

One fallacy I see a lot of among gun collectors is collecting the guns themselves without reference to the entire set of equipment that the gun was supposed to be a part of. For example, an '03 Springfield rifle makes a lot more sense if it's in the context of a complete set of M1910 web gear, including the ammo belt, bayonet, pack, e-tool, canteen, etc. This is what I would call a "weapons system." Reenactors have a lot more appreciation of this than straight gun collectors do.

I think it is better to use the word "gun" instead of "weapon." I believe using the word "weapon" should only be used if you are in the military or law enforcement.

Is a knife an edged weapon system, if it has a compass in the handle?

I always thought that saying started with the AR since you can build it like a barbie doll.

You certainly don't call a real rifle you know an M1A, Garand, or Fn49 a "weapon system". They are simply rifles, or if out of ammo "war clubs".

Humans are an essential part of any weapon "system".

An individual weapon isn't a "system". Likewise a human isn't a "system". Put weapon and human together and you have a weapon system.

A system is comprised of two or more subsystems.

I did not read all this. I have no military or law enforcement training. But on the show top sniper the US military sniper school instructors use the the words weapon system on occasion.