Argument with an Anti about my parenting

I remember a wise saying I heard once:

"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

If I can see that someone is coming from emotion, not logic, I try not to bother to engage in a debate. You can't convince them, and you will waste your breath, and potentially a relationship with the person. Hoplophobes use emotion not logic.

The phrase, is
"well I guess we will have to politely disagree"
I would also include that you believe in teaching your children responsibility, and that they will be fine, unless of course he completely distrust his own daughter. And drop it
If he brings it up, just loudly (so your mother in law and wife can hear)

tell him that you are there to have a nice time and be polite company, and that you are not allowed, or don't wish, to speak on topics that will cause conflict.

why engage in useless conversations?? Its like trying to convince someone that the invisible holy guy you pray to is better than the other person's invisible holy guy.

Arguements based on emotion and not facts are unwinable because feelings get hurt, and no one wins in the end.

I was raised in a rural area,And without a dad around,my uncle and older brother taught me aboutguns,at the age of 5.I'v been married 3 times,and my present wife and I some times hunt or target shoot together.I've got 9 kids,5 grankids,& 3 greatgrandkids,and I served in the army for 9 yrs,including Vietnam.I've taught each of those kids(except for the greatgrandkids--YET)about firearms and firearm safety.When one of my in-laws objected,I just told them it's none of their business.Last month,my 1st ex-wife told me that I was right in teaching them!It seems that my 9yr old granddaughter,while playing at a friend's,saw her playmate's father remove a rifle from the gun cabinet,and start to hand it to his neighbor to look over.She asked,quite loudly"Aren't you gonna check it for bullets?"Embarrassed,he opened the bolt,and acartridge ejected! Say what you will,even if they don't use them,they should know about gun safety!!

Mousegun said:

Prolly the Air Force.

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I'm a DoD civilian and work around all of the services.

The most anti-2A types are usually the upper eschelon Army and Navy commanders and NCOs.

They got there by being good bureaucrats, not by being pro-2A.

That's why you never want a military takeover of your nation.

It really is amazing who will be anti 2A. My father and I own may firearms and the other night we got into a long debate about the proposed magazine ban. He was a Marine, is an avid hunter, and has an impressive collection of firearms yet he fully supports limiting the size of clips.

It ended up in a long debate and no one budged from their stance.

As long as there are two people on this planet there will always be two opinions.

Ok...here's my take on kids and guns...

1. I'm very pro-gun.

2. Yes... we should teach our children gun safety, gun handling...

3. But....... remember: KIDS are KIDS. They are not miniature adults. Even with the best teaching methods, they are prone to lapse to foolishness. There's a greater chance of "momentary lapse of good judgement".

My mantra when it comes to kids and guns: "Teach more, trust less"

Or as Ronald Reagan used to say, "trust but verify".

Never let kids with guns out of your direct 100% supervision. You can't even for one moment let that lapse to 99% supervision.

If the child is not old enough to drive by himself, he has no business having a gun by himself without direct 100% supervision.

Those who say that they trust their 13 year old with having a gun..simply do not appreciate the foolishness that is bound in the heart of a child. Remember that having a gun...is in many ways equal to having the power of life and death. It's serious business.

My inlaws are divorced.

The father is a lover of goats of the first order and the mom is really cool.

I might take the mom shooting one day, but the dad can keel over for all I care.

The father is a lover of goats of the first order

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I'm not familiar with this phrase, can you explain what it means.

Not a good person
the sort of person that goats run from

as the Scottish joke goes, why do Scots wear kilts...


Cause sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away...

Seriously?



No. Guess we're finished with constructive advice.