Finally getting an O/U B gun...Help me choose

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Milkmaster

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Ok folks...after traveling about 150 miles today looking at Browning and Beretta O/U models I have a decision to make before negotiations and my trade-in guns begin..

1. NEW Beretta 686 Onyx bottom of the line, no engraving, plain wood, 28" barrel. Priced at $1999

2. Demo model Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon Sporting. Gun has not been sold, but was used in a shot show and handled a lot. Nice wood with a black matte 28" barrel. Comes with the two installed chokes without a box. No damage or bad marks I could see on it. Also priced at $1999

3. Used Browning 525 with dark wood origin unknown. The gun locks up tight and the gun shop seems reputable. Priced $1300 non-negotiable.


Either choice will end up as my trap gun. The 686 and 525 seemed very similar to me in feel and fit. What do you say about the choices for the prices listed?
 
I prefer new. Things are used for a reason, not necessarily a bad reason, but a reason just the same.

I have a Beretta 686 (28 ga) and a couple of Citories (12 ga and 20 ga). I like all three.

Having made the "used" comment, I did buy the 12 ga Citori used. A skeet model that was part of an estate sale. Virtually unused. There were matching 20 ga, 28 ga and .410 bore guns that I wish i could have afforded at the time.:(
 
With NIB White Onyx 686's selling for way under $1500 on gunbroker I think 2 grand for a base model is a bit high. For $2100 you can but a White Onyx Sporting. Or Jaquas has used 682 combo for $1800. Just seems like there are a lot of great deals out there.
 
Go with the white onyx. I have one that I have set up as a skeet gun. I has the adjustable comb and buttplate. It had 500,000 rounds put through it by the previous owner. I have put another 10,000 rounds through it. It is still going strong with no parts breakages. The beretta will last your whole life and then you'd kid's lives as well. If you get it, you won't look back
 
There is a difference in fit and feel between Brownings and Berettas - Typically if one fits you well, the other tends not to, so try to make sure you have shot these guns before you buy. Remember also there are differences between field models and target models with target models generally having different stocks and being a pound heavier - something that comes in handy when trap shooting
 
Lanber sporting. I have a citory and a beretta and now shoot this one all the time. Same thing with my brother and some friends at the club. They are starting in the USA and extremely good for what you pay. Very popular over in Europe, Australia, South America....

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I have two Beretta oynx guns 12ga and 20ga both purchased new. The 20 was purchased last month and the 12 was bought +20 years ago.

In NYC, I paid 1,850 plus tax. New guns come with 5 chokes, wrench, manual, plastic carrying case, etc...

Buy what fits you. The actions on Beretta and Browning guns are very durable and will shoot thousands of rounds with no issues. They can be rebuilt, if necesarry which is not the case with lesser guns...
 
Get the one that feels best.

I believe you can beat those prices. A W/O here runs about $1850 NIB at PGC.
 
..when you find a gun that fits and it is what your looking for, don't walk away. Price is important but, in the end, quality guns that fit are "forever" assets....

My 12 ga onyx was purchased at a bargin price of $1,000 in 1990 and my 20ga onyx was not a bargin but it was exactly what I wanted. I had five 20ga guns to choose in NYC and I picked the one with the best wood but paid a tad much. I will cherish both guns for a lifetime and will not part with either.
 
These are very good recommendations. Mount the shotgun and see how it feels. A good quality system is paramount too. Ask around in the club and try others. In my club folks are very open and share their shotguns for friends to try.

Beretta - Around 25K shells
Citory - 35K shells
Lanber - 40K shells

No one single failure or hiccup with any of them.

Cheers,
E
 
Decision made and bought!

Good things always happen to those who wait or spend a little more time looking for what they want...

I just wasn't totally overwhelemed with my choices over the last couple of days. The Beretta's and Brownings I had been seeing were just not exactly what I was looking for and were priced high to boot. Either the barrels were not the desired length, the wood was not as I desired, or the price was too high.

I struck out this morning in another direction with some cash and a couple of trade guns fully expecting to come home with both later. However, the "B" gun Gods were smiling on me today, and I guess they figured I had put in enough time looking. I went to a reputable gun store a little over an hour from my home and discovered the EXACT gun I wanted priced $175 less than anywhere I had been previously. Being a weekday, the shop owner was able to spend more time with me to handle and choose from his stock. This time I didn't know more than the seller. He was knowledgeable, helpful, and service is always worth something to me.

I brought home a brand new 686 White Onyx Sporting w/30" barrels, mid bead, flourescent front sight, with nice wood, case, and 5 chokes priced on the rack @ $1825. I did some dickering and got some sales tax money thrown in to help the trade. I am pleased and relieved. I don't have to fret about this decision anymore! Let's go shoot some clays!
 
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Great choice...enjoy! Just remember..

Get on them...
Get in front of them...
Bust them...

Shoot and shoot more often, it's good for the industry!
 
good job - 30" barrels will serve you well for the majority of the clay games...........now you'll need to start looking at reloading equipment, then bulk buying of components, eventually a customized golf cart for sporting clays......... :D ;)
 
Great find. I'm partial to Browning over the Beretta but that is just based on my personal taste, I'd have no problem encouraging somebody to get either...or both! Those "B" guns are some of the best for the money and will last until your great-grandchildren are old. I bought a new Grade III/V 525 with 32" barrels all the goodies and dropped more than I really wanted to but she is a work of art. The wood is nothing like I've seen before; I just wish I could shoot as good as it looks and functions.
 
Thanks Dustydawg. I had a choice of a 686 gun that had the glossy finished wood. I had one of those type finishes before on an 1100. It was hard not to put marks on it when using it regularly. Seems like I was always worried more about the gun than what it could do! I chose the oil finish wood for this one. I think in the long run it will be better and easier to keep looking fantastic.

The Browning 525 was my second choice and would have made me almost as happy. I stood them both up on the counter side by side and the LOP was nearly the same. I felt like the Browning 525 had my nose right up on the receiver. However, the Beretta 686 LOP "felt" longer and more to my liking when I mounted the gun on my shoulder. The Beretta for me was the better fit unless it proves me wrong in the field!
 
I chose the oil finish wood for this one. I think in the long run it will be better and easier to keep looking fantastic.

My 525 has that matte finish like you are talking about. It does pick up a bit of a patina or whatever they call it on Antiques Roadshow:D but it looks so good, more natural than 2" of gloss.

Be sure to post how your clay bird hunt goes the next time you get out. I have had my 525 for 3 years and haven't shot it that much but that is about to change. I finally had all the stars align and I can shoot my gun club's spring trap league. I just hope i can knock all the rust off before it begins!
 
Milkmaster - That's a nice shotgun and you will get a lot of service out of it if it fits you well and you enjoy shooting clays. I have a Browning Citori XT Trap Combo myself. I like it because once I added a recoil reducer and got the good fit I was looking for with the stock, I can change it out from O/U to a single barrel for singles with the same gun.
 
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Be sure to post how your clay bird hunt goes the next time you get out.

I will Dusty. The first thing I think I will do is to pattern the gun to see where it shoots. This weekend is cold and rainy. Got to work next weekend. Looks like it will be a few days until that gets done. I will report my findings.
 
I will Dusty. The first thing I think I will do is to pattern the gun to see where it shoots. This weekend is cold and rainy. Got to work next weekend. Looks like it will be a few days until that gets done. I will report my findings.

That sounds good to me! I'm weather watching, too and it's killing me! We are due to start our Spring trap league today and the weather doesn't look good for a while...I don't know what I've done but the weather has not cooperated for my last 4 or 5 shoots! I shoot IDPA the first Saturday of each month and the last 4 have been some of the coldest and wettest I've seen in years and now it looks like it's going to be wet and cooler for our trap league! GAH!
 
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