Is J & G sales a distributor or retailer?

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If you're ever in Prescott, AZ, you can visit the store.
I suspect they do a larger internet sale, though.
 
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Be aware that if your dealer places the order for you.....he will most likely be required to charge you state sales tax.

Here in Texas, if I order a firearm from J&G (or any other seller) on behalf of a customer I am required to collect 8.25% Texas sales tax. As I don't work for free, I charge a $30 minimum to order the gun: Example $500 gun + $30 + sales tax= $575.05

If my customer orders & pays directly to J&G all my customer would pay me is the transfer fee. In this case his total expense would be $500 + a $20 transfer fee.

chevyman097: Who requires that? I have ordered many firearms through j &g and other vendors and never been charged sales tax.
Who? The state of Texas. Again, if YOU order directly from J&G and YOU pay them directly you would not pay Texas sales tax. If your dealer does anything other than the transfer he is required under Texas law to charge you Texas sales tax. The amount varies depending on where in Texas you reside.

If you require sales tax that is different from being required to charge sales tax. Just imo, it sounds misleading as if Texas requires you to charge this. I dont know of any requirement.
It's not misleading, it's plainly stated on the state comptrollers website. Your dealer had better be fully aware of what is or is not taxable in the state of Texas.

Anyways aside from that I understand you are tryint to run a business and make money.
Sorry, I don't "make money" from sales tax. I have to remit the tax collected to the state each quarter.

Everything you ever want to know about Texas sales & use taxes:
http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/sales/
 
In most (not all) states you're supposed to pay the tax at the end of the year on all your Internet purchases anyways. It's reported as a "Use Tax", typically on your income tax filing, and is to be paid on any items on which you did not pay sales tax.

Kindly list those states for us as I'm sure we are all interested.
 
I have been dealing with JG sales for years. I think they are retail. They are in AZ.
I have always been treated well by them. They have a store front, from the guys that have been, they say it is a small shop with very helpful workers. I have a c&r license so if they have something in c&r long guns, I just order it. I'm in California so if I want c&r handguns, I either have it shipped to a ffl or I could drive there, pick them up and register them in California no more than 10 days of getting back. The fee for that is 19 bucks.
 
You dont have to apologize for anything dogtown. I am simply having a conversation and trying to understand the circumstances. I have never been charged sales tax is all, this is why it seemed odd to me when I read it.
 
I live 20 minutes from J&G. Have purchased firearms from them, mostly milsurp and ammunition. All goods as advertised and fairly priced. They generally have at least four counter employees, I have seen as many as eight on weekends, and if they can't give a definitive answer on a firearm they always get the answer from another counter man who is knowledgeable about specifics. Worth the trip from a lot further away. When buying milsurp they have always presented three run of the box samples and given me my choice. If I ask to look at more than three, thier policy is to add $10 for custom pick. I looked at 9 once and found one I liked, when I pulled out cash they just charged me advertised price. When I asked why no extra $10 the guy told me I was a repeat customer and I was paying CASH.
If I am intrested in milsurp I go to J$G. 11 store front gun retailers within 1/2 hour of where I live and Davidsons Wholesale is also within that 1/2 hr circle.

I think I retired and went to heaven,

blindhari
 
How in the world do you get anything done with that many gun shops around you? lol
My mouth would be dry because of all the drooling on guns I would do. I live in California, there is one shop here in salinas, mostly hunter's supply. 24 miles away is another, in Watsonville. Because of the lack of competition, were at these guy's mercy when it comes to price and choice. What is sad, the best gun store around these parts is a big5 and their nothing to be happy about.
 
Hello Johnthomas,
I had an early retirement chance for both my wife and myself come up a few years back and jumped on it. We left California, Solano county, and ran away from from home. The fact that I was getting older and slower prompted me to take a look at Az. We live 5000' in the air on high desert plateau about an hour away from Sedona. I do photography and write a little. PM me an address and I will send along a picture or two. Legal hunts here, Bighorn/Dahl sheep, buffallo,elk, white tail, javalina, turkey, grouse, quail, bear, jack rabbit, and all the coyotes you can call in. Only thing I hunt anymore are tincans, and the occasional coyote.

blindhari
 
Buy Local or from a Dealer

Dealers usually don't like these online gun-stores because they undercut their prices and threaten their business. Think Bud's Gun Shop. They have such low prices because they are drop-shipping straight from a distributor and many times they don't even touch a gun that you buy from them. Dealers do not like this (according to my local FFL). He says he uses GunsAmerica and GunsInternational to sell his guns online and in fact prefers to sell on those sites because he gets a fair retail price for his gun and gets the online presence.

If you want to buy online, use GunsAmerica, GunBroker, or GunsInternational because those are the sites our Local Gun Dealers use to help them sell and stay in business. Let the distributor serve their function of supplying the dealers and let the dealers serve their function of supplying the end-user.

just my $.02
 
Kindly list those states for us as I'm sure we are all interested.


  • Alabama Yes
    Alaska No
    Arizona Yes
    Arkansas Yes
    California Yes
    Connecticut Yes
    Colorado Yes
    Delaware No
    Florida Yes
    Georgia Yes
    Hawaii Yes
    Idaho Yes
    Illinios Yes
    Indiana Yes
    Iowa Yes
    Kansas Yes
    Kentucky Yes
    Louisiana Yes
    Maine Yes
    Maryland Yes
    Massachusetts Yes
    Michigan Yes
    Minnesota Yes
    Mississippi Yes
    Missouri Yes
    Montana No
    Nebraska Yes
    Nevada Yes
    New Hampshire No
    New Jersey Yes
    New Mexico Yes
    New York Yes
    North Carolina Yes
    North Dakota Yes
    Ohio Yes
    Oklahoma Yes
    Oregon No
    Pennsylvania Yes
    Rhode Island Yes
    South Carolina Yes
    South Dakota Yes
    Tennessee Yes
    Texas Yes
    Utah Yes
    Vermont Yes
    Virginia Yes
    Washington Yes
    West Virginia Yes
    Wisconsin Yes
    Wyoming Yes
    DC Yes

http://www.ecommerce-blog.org/archives/the-myth-of-tax-free-internet-sales/

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Dealers usually don't like these online gun-stores because they undercut their prices and threaten their business. Think Bud's Gun Shop. They have such low prices because they are drop-shipping straight from a distributor and many times they don't even touch a gun that you buy from them. Dealers do not like this (according to my local FFL). He says he uses GunsAmerica and GunsInternational to sell his guns online and in fact prefers to sell on those sites because he gets a fair retail price for his gun and gets the online presence.

If you want to buy online, use GunsAmerica, GunBroker, or GunsInternational because those are the sites our Local Gun Dealers use to help them sell and stay in business. Let the distributor serve their function of supplying the dealers and let the dealers serve their function of supplying the end-user.

just my $.02

Summarized version of your post: "You should voluntarily pay more than you have to in order to prop up certain businesses instead of supporting people who are better managing their businesses."

Yes, Buds does a lot of drop shipping. Once upon a time those arrangements didn't exist. They saw an opportunity, negotiated those agreements, and as a result can offer lower prices. HOW a business manages to gain a competitive edge isn't important. That's for the businesses themselves to worry about. As a customer, I only care about the end result.

If Buds can give me the same item for a lower price then I'm happy to support them. It's up to the other shops to beat that price (the how is up to them) in order to earn back my business. Alternatively, they can offer a value added service as well. Free 6 months of range time with a purchase? That might be worth something. Perhaps free accessory installation on guns you sell. Overall though, being able to "handle" the gun or "bring it back if there's an issue" usually isn't worth a whole lot to me, as the (vast) majority of guns I buy online have no issues whatsoever. Will I get a lemon eventually? Probably. But unless I get lemons at a rate such that the cost of fixing the situation exceeds the savings I gain by shopping online, then it's still economically wise to shop online. If you think about it as a risk analysis (which is exactly how insurance companies make money), then you can make a more financially sound decision.
 
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