Mountain Lions 101

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I'm not Urban by any means, if that was some sort of low shot.

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You can feel free to take that anyway you want, it's a free country. The point being however ,that the only people who think the American Mt Lion are a scarce species are the ill educated about wildlife and they tend to be urbanized. We tend to get that out here too with the new comers and the urban idiots who move out of town. Right up until the day they come home and find fluffy has been killed and consumed in their back yard by the scarce and noble Mt Lion. Or they find one sleeping on the back porch. It happens all the time.

In area where they are plentiful, and you plan on using what you kill (food, clothing, etc).. OK....

They are plentiful all over the inter mountain west in fact they can be a down right PITA sometimes. That does not make them gregarious however and unintended sighting during the daytime are rare. People mistake that for low population. We've also established that they are edible though state game laws do not enforce the salvage of lion meat just like they don't establish the salvage of coyote meat. So I'll ask the question again, do you eat coyotes that you kill?

I've eaten lion but I wouldn't make a second trip into the back country to salvage the meat off of one. I do however take the hides with head and claws attached. They make a very interesting trophy rug.

I don't buy the false morality of if you kill it you have to eat it. There are some animals made for eating and that is why we hunt them there are others that we hunt for others reasons such as conservation issues, population control and depredation issues. The lion falls the second category and happen to be edible but sustenance is not why we hunt the lion.

There are areas of NM and AZ that have 90% Mt sheep lamb mortality due to lion depredation. I worked for as a hunter for an outfit that was contracted by the state of NM to hunt lions in one of those areas back in the 90's. We didn't eat a single cat that we killed. I'm OK with that.
 
"Here in Arizona, there is no where that mountain lions don't range. Az issues 250-350 permits /yr."

where did you come up with that statistic? The tags are over the counter non permit tags. I guarantee at least 10x that many tags are sold.
 
As for the ad-hoc approach to hunting lion, I've got no problem with it within the Colorado context, same as for black bear. If I'm hunting elk and the add on tags are inexpensive, I'd love to take one if I happen to see one. Last time up my wife and I tracked a bear for a couple hours just for the fun of it as we were spotting for elk. For those of us that live close to the rockies I don't buy that every hunt needs to be planned out to the tee. As for the logic of leaving them for those who want to hunt them... Unfortunately there aren't enough hunters interested these days anyways, and at least around the Aspen area the argument could be made that hunters should ALWAYS have a lion tag just to take responsibility for population control. These days, with the majority of funding for management coming through hunters, not buyng lion tags or understanding the situation involved with managing them could be construed as saying 'I don't hunt lion, not my problem what happens to them'. Produces the opposite effect of the management of a healthy population the naysayers here would like to see happen.
 
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