Longevity of the BPS?

Browning builds quality guns---will probably last two lifetimes!

sounds like a load of crap to me. Browning BPS is one of the very best! Right up there with the 870 and 37...

The Browning BPS (Browning Pump Shotgun) is one of the finer and durable pumps out there. I just wish I had enough opportunities and money for ammo to wear one out. I still think it would outlast me.

I greatly prefer the ergonomics of the Remingtons, but there is not a better pump gun made than the BPS. Assuming you don't lubricate it with sand or valve grinding compound, if it doesn't outlast you and your grandkids I'd be very surprised.

My sister has the 20 ga Upland BPS and shoots skeet with it twice a month......for the last 7 years.

I think it will be fine.

Dose the BPS ware out quicker with heavy usage then other pump guns?

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In a word, Nope, Brownings are built to last.

They're so overbuilt---they'll probably last longer than ANY other pumpgun.

I've never heard of a BPS wearing out prematurly. But I've also never heard of anyone pushing one hard either. There are quite a few 870's out there that have gone though 200,000-300,000 rounds and are still working. Can a Browning, or any other pumpgun do that? I don't know, because no one has tried.

Certainly, a BPS is going to last tens of thousands of rounds, if not 100's of thousands. As it is a robust platform (as is an 870), it is going to cost you a great deal more in ammo $'s to wear one out than buying a new one if/when it wears out.
Say you shoot 100k rounds, at $6/box, that would be $24,000 worth of ammo through a shotgun that costs well under a $1,000.

Considering the degree of overbuilding that all other of JMB's designs show, I really doubt the BPS is a fragile piece of junk.

I'd expect a BPS to last like a Model 17, 37 or 97. Those were JMB's OTHER pumps....

"you can't believe everything you read".

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That, of course, should include the positive reviews as equally as the negative reviews. The internet is a fabulous place-and an equally treacherous place-to get at the truth of a matter.

For what it's worth, my experience with the BPS (and I've owned and shot a whole gamet of shotguns over the past fifty years or so; if just considering pumps, I've owned S&W's Models 3000 and 916 , a couple of Remington Model 870s, an Ithaca Model 37, a Marlin Model 120, Winchester Models 97, 12 and 1300, a Benelli Nova and a Mossberg Model 835) has been very positive and I consider it to be as good a pump shotgun as I've ever owned and way better than some.
Most of my hunting anymore is for grouse and woodcock, along with released pheasants (except for the occasional visit to South Dakota), and for these endeavors I generally use either a nice Merkel sxs twenty or my Browning DoubleAuto chambered in 12 gauge. But when I hunt waterfowl, most often a pump will be found in the canoe or in the blind and, these days, it's almost always my Browning BPS.

"....everything you read..."

According to some folks on the Net, 870 Expresses will rust solid overnight in the Sonoran Desert,jam every shot and hit a few time zones away from POA if you can get them to work.

I know some happy BPS owners. I know of no BPS's being sold or traded off.

Go shoot a BPS. If you like it, get your own.

Considering the degree of overbuilding that all other of JMB's designs show, I really doubt the BPS is a fragile piece of junk.

I'd expect a BPS to last like a Model 17, 37 or 97. Those were JMB's OTHER pumps....

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Wait, did I miss something? Did JMB design that shotgun?!?!?

Not directly, but it uses some of his patents....

Bps 410

I am interested in this thread because I am thinking of getting a BPS 410 to use for skeet. About a year ago I bought a 870 Wingmaster 20ga and have used it extensively shooting skeet. I have likely put 30 years worth of shells through it if it would of been used for hunting. Obviously you don't shoot a hundred times a day hunting like you do shooting skeet. This 870 shows light wear but functions perfectly. I want to go to a 410 but a 870 wingmaster in 410 with choke tubes is not available. The BPS is available. Any comments on the BPS 410? I really like using a pump shooting skeet. The additional skill needed to do this appeals to me.

The .410 BPS is great fun on the skeet field.
I can't believe it costs less than a Wingmaster.
It's arguably a better shotgun.

SS

I think the Ithaca 37 is more closely representative of JMBs design of the bottom ejecting shotgun.

Nonetheless, the primary concerns I hear most often as disadvantages in the BPS are its weight it would seem they have a higher propensity to "short stroking"

I have not experienced any of the latter but can say that on paper the BPS is a tad heavier than equivalent pump shotguns from other makers. I unfortunately do not own a shotgun right now but I used to have a 20 gauge Upland I used to take quite a few rabbits back in my youth.

The only 'disadvantage' the BPS has is its weight. It's certainly the heaviest shotgun I own, though in fairness it's also the only 3 1/2 mag gun I own as well.

The 3 1/2 guns are extra heavy.

The 10 gauges are real tanks though.

I have a 3 inch 12 gauge BPS with the wood stock. It is a heavy gun for a 12 gauge with probably a little extra metal on it. I doubt you can wear the gun out because folks can't wear out lighter guns like the 870 or the Ithaca 37.

I think the Ithaca 37 is more closely representative of JMBs design of the bottom ejecting shotgun.

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This is true. Other than the fact that they are both bottom-ejecting pump shotguns, in terms of their designs and features the BPS and the Ithaca Model 37 don't have a whole lot in common.