12 gauge HD ammo?

What is the secret of being able to shoot a shotgun loaded with Magnum Buckshot loads? I find this to be painful enough to interfere with competent shooting.

What is the technique for casually absorbing shotgun recoil?

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A good recoil pad, plus pulling the gun tight into your shoulder pocket while jamming your face into the stock so it doesn't get a run at you, basically keeping good form.

Anyway I'm currently using either Federal 000 or Fiocchi 00 for HD, as those are what I usually buy in bulk for buckshot.

Wax slugs?

I wonder if making some of these "wax slugs" could become a income producing cottage industry? Load up a few, put ads in the back of gun rags, wait for the internet orders to start flowing in.

If there is a market, I would use the following for those wishing, a touchy, feely shotgun slug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppository

The wax shells will only sell if you make the shell black, and say it was "designed for the demands of professional tactical operators." Maybe you could stick a few rails to the shell, too, and maybe a couple of extra pistol grips. That way you can have pistol grips inside your pistol grip only tactical door breacher standoff zombie SHTF shotgun.

7 rounds Federal LE127 00 inthe tube.
5 more of the same on the butcuff

Loaded with 00 Fed RR LE buckshot, slugs in the buttcuff.

Figure I might get some of those super duper 'expands into a midsized sedan' hexamajigger shells though.

ArmedLiberal said:

What is the secret of being able to shoot a shotgun loaded with Magnum Buckshot loads? I find this to be painful enough to interfere with competent shooting.

What is the technique for casually absorbing shotgun recoil?

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I'll second Youngster's reply. I'm using LimbSaver pads on both of my Mossies and they really do make a difference. The other thing I did was to cut 1 1/2" off the stocks for a better fit.

Even with the mods there ain't nothing "casual" about magnum recoil. My 835 still has considerable thrust with heavy loads and muzzle climb. At least now it doesn't feel like a sledgehammer with every shot.

Fiocci reduced recoil 00 Buck with Fiocci reduced recoil slugs close by (side saddle) in both "ready" pumps.

"The wax shells will only sell if you make the shell black, and say it was "designed for the demands of professional tactical operators." Maybe you could stick a few rails to the shell, too, and maybe a couple of extra pistol grips. That way you can have pistol grips inside your pistol grip only tactical door breacher standoff zombie SHTF shotgun."




this is true....sad but true

Right now I keep Federal Tactical low recoil 00 buck loaded up.
Part #LE132 00


I plan on getting some ALS Pen. Prevent bean bags and keeping one of those in the pipe, loading the rest of the mag with the Federals

I prefer tight patterning, reduced recoil #4, but I'm not against some #1 either.

What is the secret of being able to shoot a shotgun loaded with Magnum Buckshot loads?

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The secret is... don't. I prefer the reduced recoil stuff. I might stock up on some full house loads if I find them on sale, but I'm not going to practice with them past making sure they work, and I'm not going to keep the bedroom gun loaded with them.

Mossy 835 and rem.870 loaded with 3in #4 buck.Any size BUCKSHOT is good imo,I just use the #4 because I trust it to get the job done (taken a few deer and 40+ coyotes with it)and I have a good supply of it.

Federal Premium Personal Defense with FliteControl Wad (PD132 00) - 12 gauge 9 pellet 00 buckshot at 1145 FPS. This has a 1 inch pattern at 10 yards from my 18.5" barreled Mossy 590A1. Great ammo with no stray pellets. I have kids and neighbors and I need to know where my pellets are going. I pick it up at Sportsmans Warehouse.

FYI the Federal Personal Defense stuff is EXACTLY the same as the Tactical Law Enforcement stuff, just more expensive.

For close quarters use high speed turkey load #4 or #5. It will reduce the liabilities and it is extremelly effective. Esentially if you hit somebody, it will leave 90+% of the energy in the target. A turkey load will not go throuh a human torso, instead it will stop at the back ribs and leave everything in its path as grinded hamburger meat. If you are not worry about going throug walls or getting into neibough homes then shoot them wiht whatever you want. The home defense rounds is a mixture of turkey size and BB loads.
That's what some manufactures concluded is the most effective and minimizing liability
situations.
Cheers.
E.

FYI the Federal Personal Defense stuff is EXACTLY the same as the Tactical Law Enforcement stuff, just more expensive.

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I know its the exact same stuff. I'm not one that likes to buy my ammo online ... don't know why just never liked doing that. I've not seen the Tactical LE ammo in the stores but I do see the PD stuff.

Where are you getting your Tactical?

How is Federal 12 gauge "Classic" OOO buckshot?

00 buck, 6 in the tube, chamber empty and ready to rack.

It sits in the safe closet. My first line of defense is my carry piece, a light and a phone.

I'm really not sure when I'd ever go to the shotgun. If I have time to go for it, I'll likely spend that time to call the cops and keep my family calm and close by in a safe room. If I go for the shotgun, things are looking bad for the home team.

How is Federal 12 gauge "Classic" OOO buckshot?

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Small world. My dad found 10 boxes of that stuff in 3" and gave it to me. I've yet to try it out. It has 10 .36 caliber pellets according to my box, so it sounds pretty effective. I'm guessing that it has a stout kick, though.

What about 2-3/4 vs 3"? I have read, and I pretty much agree with opinions that 3" or bigger is excessive for HD. A shotgun has been a very effective man-stopper since long before the magnum shells were invented.

Great.I have 2-3/4" with 8 pallets.they don't kick hard.

No buckshot for me in the house - I don't want to be killing family members 4 rooms away.

Stars & Stripes Combat CQB.

No buckshot for me in the house - I don't want to be killing family members 4 rooms away.

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00 Buck shot penetrates fewer layers of drywall than any of the common pistol service calibres.

Somebodies got to be different - me!

My first up round is Remington's Home Defense BB shot in a 2 3/4. Single story house in a sub-division with neighbors. Over penetration is a concern.

Turkey shot#4 / bb in a Home defense situation at close range is devastating and with less potential liabilities.
A shot in a human torso or limb will leave 8x8 inches of grinded flesh and bones. The result is instant collapse due to the shock and deadly trauma.
The Remington Home Defense ammo is built based on this principal. Turkey size shot mixed with some BB's. Lots of research has been done on this and this is unquestinable. Don't even need a magnum turkey shot, that would be too much.

Cheers.
E.