Howard -- indeed, I do. If it's not carried in Condition 1, it's pointless for defense(IMHO). I know many people who just aren't comfortable carrying 1911 SAO's cocked-n-locked, but I simply can't figure out why. There must be something about seeing the hammer back that freaks them out. But knowing that the safety has to be lowered and the trigger squeezed (both of which require a degree of force on the 238) to get it to fire is all of the peace of mind I need.
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I received my Rhyno ebony wood grips for the Sig 238 today, but one of the grips was chipped so I'm sending it back for another pair. The checkering felt great and really helped increase the grip on the Sig, a big improvement in control. Hopefully the next set of grips will be in better shape and I will actually be able to take the rig to the range.
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These are the Buffalo Horn grips, the blue ones above are fiberglass.
hAkron
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I've shot my dad's 238 and I liked it a lot. You almost don't notice that your pinky isn't on the grip. I'm looking to ditch my S&W Walther PPK/s and will probably get a P238. I like the idea of carying a pocket gun cocked and locked, or for the squeamish, you can carry this baby uncocked AND locked.
CombatArmsUSAF
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I carry a fullsize 1911 IWB, in a Crossbreed supertuck with no issues at all.
I wouldn't give up on IWB carry just yet. You just need to find a combo that works for you.
I've found that with a good quality belt (actual gun belt, not department store) and a Crossbreed Holster, there's nothing reasonable that I can't carry comfortably.
That being said, congratulations on the P238 purchase. I've been thinking about picking one up for my girlfriend and as an occasional carry for me. Now I just gotta find on that isn't severely over priced. They are great little guns and you won't be disappointed .
I wouldn't give up on IWB carry just yet. You just need to find a combo that works for you.
I've found that with a good quality belt (actual gun belt, not department store) and a Crossbreed Holster, there's nothing reasonable that I can't carry comfortably.
That being said, congratulations on the P238 purchase. I've been thinking about picking one up for my girlfriend and as an occasional carry for me. Now I just gotta find on that isn't severely over priced. They are great little guns and you won't be disappointed .
Big_John1961
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I have not used those grips, but the P238 I bought came with stock blackwood grips that I really love. In fact, they were one of the things that really caught my eye at the gunshop. I'd imagine a lot of other wood grips would look and feel great too.9mm+ said:
TexasBill
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The P238 is a very nice pistol, and I am certainly not going to argue with your pleasure in your new gun, but I am curious: I used to carry a Walther PPK (not PPK/S) in my back pocket and never had a problem. And I was actually pretty trim back then, too!
These days, it's my Walther PK380 (pocket) or Beretta Cheetah (IWB). I like a grip I can get all my fingers around (any good MD can tell you the little finger is far more important than you might think in terms of grip strength) even if my pinky is just hanging on. Plus, I like having nine or fourteen rounds. And, I will confess, I am just not comfortable with an SAO pocket pistol, but that's just me.
You've certainly moved light years up from the LCP, so enjoy and stay safe!
These days, it's my Walther PK380 (pocket) or Beretta Cheetah (IWB). I like a grip I can get all my fingers around (any good MD can tell you the little finger is far more important than you might think in terms of grip strength) even if my pinky is just hanging on. Plus, I like having nine or fourteen rounds. And, I will confess, I am just not comfortable with an SAO pocket pistol, but that's just me.
You've certainly moved light years up from the LCP, so enjoy and stay safe!
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The trick I really like about the mouseguns: You can carry them OWB and they are no bigger than a cellphone that is also usually on my hip.
They conceal perfectly in a Raven style Kydex holster on my hip OWB. And so much speedier to draw that way as well.
They conceal perfectly in a Raven style Kydex holster on my hip OWB. And so much speedier to draw that way as well.
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RM.......Need a left hand safety for your P238?
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Dr_B
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I traded in my LCP + some cash for a used P238. I thought the LCP was a good gun, and it is, but I like the trigger and recoil much better with the P238.
Indigestion with Speer Gold Dot 90gr.
I took my oldest son to the range today and we shot the XD40, MkIII Ruger, and the 238. All in all, it was a good day of shooting, but I discovered that my Sig doesn't really like the Speer Gold Dot JHP's very much. The bullet cone rim hangs on the feed ramp when racking the slide for the first cartridge (all subsequent shots feed well because the recoil/return force is stong enough to force the cartridge into the breech). I switched to Hornady XTP's (also 90 gr.) and the 238 liked that much better.
The more angular shape of the XTP bullet glides up the feed ramp great.
I took my oldest son to the range today and we shot the XD40, MkIII Ruger, and the 238. All in all, it was a good day of shooting, but I discovered that my Sig doesn't really like the Speer Gold Dot JHP's very much. The bullet cone rim hangs on the feed ramp when racking the slide for the first cartridge (all subsequent shots feed well because the recoil/return force is stong enough to force the cartridge into the breech). I switched to Hornady XTP's (also 90 gr.) and the 238 liked that much better.
The more angular shape of the XTP bullet glides up the feed ramp great.
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Btw, I did check the feed ramp for any burrs or nicks. The ramp is in great shape and smooth and polished. All FMJ rounds feed 100% as do JHP's with a conical shape vs a truncated round nose like the Speer Gold Dots. Once I changed my carry round to the Hornady XTP, the 238 worked like a champ.
Btw, I did check the feed ramp for any burrs or nicks. The ramp is in great shape and smooth and polished. All FMJ rounds feed 100% as do JHP's with a conical shape vs a truncated round nose like the Speer Gold Dots. Once I changed my carry round to the Hornady XTP, the 238 worked like a champ.
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That hits the nail on the head. Most folks don't carry a big gun.
I took my 238 to the range to let my friends wife shoot it. She loved it. I always say that's the perfect gun for a woman.
When I got it home, I thought the slide was really easy to rack, and I was afraid maybe the recoil spring was getting weak. I took it down, and no, the spring looked fine, same length as always. I may order another, because I hear they've made a new spring for the 238. (mine is an old one. 8/09. Just keeps chugging along.)
Expensive range ammo, although I understand why you do it.
I like PMC Bronze FMJ in mine, it just works.
Amen to that, Guns n' More! I only used the Speers to be sure that the carry load functioned flawlessly 100% of the time (which it didn't). I kicked the Speers out and replaced the carry load with the Hornady XTP and it functions excellently. Now that the SD loads have been run through their paces (big bucks $$$!), I switched back to any and all FMJ that I can find for cheap. My 238 hasn't found an FMJ it hasn't liked yet
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