What's in your 45?

230 grain FMJ. I'm totally content with that.

I don't really use my .45 as my SD weapon, but recently I bought some of that Double Tap 185gr Nosler JHP rated at 1225 fps, and 616 lb-ft. DT claims that it's in a package just shy of a +P rating. Well they could of fooled me as that stuff has got some serious pop to it. Even my G20SF with full power 10mm loads is quite a bit more comfortable of a gun to shoot than my 1911 with this stuff as it's got a lot of snappy/jerky recoil to it. I'm not saying it's not manageable, but it's some pretty bad stuff. That velocity rating is right up there with your typical full power 10mm 200gr rounds.

To be honest I would probably rather shoot a slower 230gr JHP, but here's a link to it if you are interested.
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_34&products_id=93

mine likes,,

225gr hand cast LRB over 5.8gr Unique, (Flaming dirt)

My house is 45' long, if 8 of these dont do it, I'm already at my rifles.

My 1911 will be coming in about a 2 weeks or so.
It'll be filled with my reloads.

But I don't think the BG will really care what bullet they get hit with.

Proper placement of a Lead Semi-Wadcutter (LSWC) will beat any hollow point pray & spray any day.

Stay safe my friends!

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Its not the subject that's confusing, its your posts. I'm pretty sure I read "antiquated design that's not even considered fit for duty". Now you're saying they're "not bad". Additionally, you threw in an approved list of carry loads, and hydrashoks are on there twice. Make up your mind.

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HST and hydrashok aren't the same thing.
The HST is on that list of approved loads the hydrashok is not.

230gr Ranger T +P

230 grain Remington Golden Sabre. Why? In my range tests they perform the best.

Beware the bad guy who taunts you after plugging him with your poorly performing loads, that's what I'll take away from this discussion.

There is no magic bullet, there is only shot placement. Anyone arguing otherwise Googles far too much.

185gr DPX +P in all my 1911's home gun or carry.

160grn DPX or 230 ball in my XD..

Its not the subject that's confusing, its your posts. I'm pretty sure I read "antiquated design that's not even considered fit for duty". Now you're saying they're "not bad". Additionally, you threw in an approved list of carry loads, and hydrashoks are on there twice. Make up your mind.

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HST's have nothing to do with hydrashocks. completely different designs.

the HST is basically a modified starfire hollowpoint bullet. same designer/engineer,
actually.

contrary to popular internet myth, HST does NOT stand for "hydra shock two" lmao

Its not the subject that's confusing, its your posts. I'm pretty sure I read "antiquated design that's not even considered fit for duty". Now you're saying they're "not bad". Additionally, you threw in an approved list of carry loads, and hydrashoks are on there twice. Make up your mind.

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i can't make my point any clearer, yet it still eludes you.

HST=hydra shok technology

Not the same bullet but same expansion technology. One has a post the other does not. The secret service uses 180 grain HST as we buy their over runs here and there.

230gr HydraShoks have always been my favorite.

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Dit. Toe.

HST=hydra shok technology

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Not the same bullet but same expansion technology. One has a post the other does not. The secret service uses 180 grain HST as we buy their over runs here and there.

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the design of HST and hyrdashocks have nothing in common, with or without the post. also, the secret service issues 357sig.

Only one 45 in the house . 230gr Ball.

Remington 185 gr. Golden Saber +P or Winchester 230 gr. JHP. Sometimes my handloads which are 185 gr. Golden Sabers over 8.7 grs of Silhouette with a cci-300 primer.

Someone once told me, "it's a 45, load it with whatever you want"
I chose .45 cause I like heavy bullets, if you want fast get a 9mm. JMO, 230gr only.
I keep Speer 230gr Gold Dots in the gun on the nightstand, other mag is loaded with WWB.
At the range, I burn about 1 box of defense ammo to 5 boxes of WWB fmj practice ammo, but I believe either would work just fine, WWB is just cheaper to shoot.

What I would REALLY like is to finally get my reloading kit and it will be 220-230gr LSWCs all day, everyday, that would be my favorite.

Just because there are some newer designs than the hydra-shok, doesn't make it useless, unacceptable, or obsolete. Seriously.

Having said that, I carry 230 GR HSTs. For pete sake, the way some of you guys state things, you make it sound like in the real world if you were carrying 'old' hydra-shoks, and you had to use them, you would be saying; "Oh no!! I am stuck with inferior, antiquated non-glossy JHP ammo! It will surely fail to do what a bullet is supposed to and I will die!. IF ONLY I had made sure that I had brought new, acclaimed HSTs. They explode on impact and doo all kinds of things that a hydra-shok will never do!! Next time I wil.......OH CRAP!!"

14 rounds of 230gr Winchester SXT's in my Para 14.45

I am comfortable with that.

180gr Golden Sabres powered by 8 grs. Unique.

In my Colt government model:

Most of the time, Winchester 230gr PDX1 JHP. Its the same Black Talon/Ranger/SXT bullet, available in "chump" boxes at Walmart.

For SD in the woods where big pigs are around, I load up with 230gr FMJ or my own 230gr hardcast lead reloads.

Pdx1 or golden saber, all that flies in mine

I use whitebox jhp in my g30 and my 1911 commander for sd and range. (like to shoot what I carry) I have had very good results with usaammo.com fmj and jhp ammo as well.

Geckgo wrote,
Someone once told me, "it's a 45, load it with whatever you want"

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mljdeckard wrote,
Just because there are some newer designs than the hydra-shok, doesn't make it useless, unacceptable, or obsolete. Seriously.

Having said that, I carry 230 GR HSTs. For pete sake, the way some of you guys state things, you make it sound like in the real world if you were carrying 'old' hydra-shoks, and you had to use them, you would be saying; "Oh no!! I am stuck with inferior, antiquated non-glossy JHP ammo! It will surely fail to do what a bullet is supposed to and I will die!. IF ONLY I had made sure that I had brought new, acclaimed HSTs. They explode on impact and doo all kinds of things that a hydra-shok will never do!! Next time I wil.......OH CRAP!!"

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Both are good points. I believe HST/Gold Dot/Golden Saber etc are better than HydraShock, but then I also believe HydraShock is better than ball. I don't have a problem using 230gr ball.

I always think of a bar graph with just .45ACP ammo on it. The differences may appear pretty big between the best and the worst. Now add .380, 9MM, and .44 Mag to the graph. The difference between the .45ACP's will get smaller. Now add .223 Rem and .308 Win to the graph and all the .45ACP's will appear practically the same.

Most people don't even carry a weapon. Many thousands are carrying .380's. Anything you have in a .45ACP puts you way better off than either of those groups. Heck, any .45ACP is probably better than more than half of the 9MM loads being used.