help. fnx9 or px4 storm

I would have to say that you would love the feel of the PX4 so much better. I tried them both. PX4 wins in my book. I gotta PX4 type F 9MM. Takedown is next to nothing. Cant say much for Beretta's CS. Haven't had to deal with them yet.

I've read too many very ugly reports of PX4 failures to ever get one or recommend one. Reports of trainers, PD's, individuals having to use mallets to 'unjam' the pistol, a consequence of the rotary barrel.

a buddy just unloaded his PX4. He shoots 3 gun with me. He could never his squat with it. Since he got the Glock 34 all is good. He hated the PX4.

Pretty odd. They must have been odd ones. Mine is fairly new. Zero jams, Zero fail to feeds, Zero fail to fires, Zero jams and is one of the most accurate pistols I have owned.

Pretty odd. They must have been odd ones. Mine is fairly new. Zero jams, Zero fail to feeds, Zero fail to fires, Zero jams and is one of the most accurate pistols I have owned.

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Most every report I have read occurred after high round counts in a brief period (like training courses).

Well the compact model had tons of problems due to the recoil spring being too stiff. But has been corrected by Beretta. They'll send out a new one to the customer. It is different than the full size. Even the subcompact is different.

This may be helpful to the original poster. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=597636&page=2

http://www.shootingwire.com/releases/121417

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=43571&highlight=storm

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=58303&highlight=storm

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=51840

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=43571

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55909&highlight=storm

Not one of those are credible. I suggest a trip to the www.Berettaforum.net or look up non-bias review vids youtube. the whole "I know a guy that said this" thing isnt gonna help the decision. It'll just drive you nuts. Go shoot them both.

How is hearsay from a fanclub forum more valid than hearsay from general forums? And the first is neither; it's one of several reports I've read of PDs abandoning the Storm/Cougar due to failures. My point is that first hand reports are all we have. You can ignore them or deal with them.

Now that you've narrowed it down to those two guns, go rent them and shoot them. What I may like, you may hate with a white-hot intensity reserved only for Smurf movies. I certainly wouldn't base my decision on random forum opinions from people I didn't know.

I assume you've at least taken the opportunity to hold these two pistols, yes? If not, shame on you. Someday, this tool may have to be used to protect your life or the lives of your loved ones. Go see what works for you!

That being said, I'm not carrying anything called a "Storm".

5000 plus rounds and not one failure and my gun is a Storm. Lol.

M4Carbine is a forum full of gun snobs so of course they'll think that its a bad gun because its not a Glock, HK, etc. The gun is fine and one user here by the name of LoneStar has one that has over 10,000 rounds through it without a failure. The PX4's design is fine.

a buddy just unloaded his PX4. He shoots 3 gun with me. He could never his squat with it. Since he got the Glock 34 all is good. He hated the PX4.

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User error.

I have never shot either one myself but I hear a lot of great things about both from those that have. I think the px4 is a little bit heavier if that matters.

I would suggest that you try to rent both, ideally the same day, to see which works best for you. That is what I would do if trying to choose between the 2.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

I owned a Berretta Storm 9mm but thank my lucky stars I was smart enough to get rid of it, for the FNP-9. The FN is the true winner for me in both accuracy and reliabillity.

I had nothing but problems with FTE and FTF with the storm.

I'm a big fan of the FNs,. I have two the FNP45 USG and FNX9, both blew me away as to how good they are and what a great value they are. I've never owned a PX4 so I cant directly compare but the FNX9 really stands out vs. Glocks, M&Ps and the XDs that I have owned.

I own a Px4 and love it. Never owned are shot a FNX9.

Was it a compact? Because the compacts where having problems due to a recoil spring that was too strong.

I was considering both of those guns last year and almost bought an FNX-9, but I ended up getting a Walther P99AS.

IMHO, the P99 is a much better gun for the money (better fit & finish, better ergos, and proven record of reliability) than either the Storm or the FNX. I haven't regretted my decision one bit.

I have the original FNP-9 and love it. It feels great, shoots straight, and is sexy to look at. FN always makes good weapons.

Never shot the FN but as far as the PX4 goes, looks aside, that gun feels and shoots great in my hands. Nothing bad to say about its shooting capabilities. Points and shoots very naturally for me.

Use the "active source's"

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How is hearsay from a fanclub forum more valid than hearsay from general forums? And the first is neither; it's one of several reports I've read of PDs abandoning the Storm/Cougar due to failures.

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General forums like to pile on and spread negative's like it's nectar for the gods even by so many that have "never owned or shot a Px4..

You'd find that "the hearsay from a fanclub forum" i.e The Beretta Forum, does not let any Beretta gun/product just "slide" when it comes to an on-going defect or just a defect in any Beretta gun be it Px4 or otherwise.

If there is a problem with someone's gun, I can attest to how such a forum reacts when it comes to Beretta's CS or warranty issues when BUSA is slow to comply or otherwise, the Beretta members, young and old, short and tall, pile-on quickly with harsh, to the point, statements of "not letting Beretta off the hook, lightly"

Now, when you read "current, on-going" range reports of Px4's, be them 9mm, 40cal, 45, or new Px4 Compact reviews, you'd find that 99% are positive be it with a Px4 with only 400 rounds out to, those like me, with over 11k "flawless rounds" where "the difference" is, simply, "owners pride" vs those that care less about taking care of one's "issued" weapon" and, in truth, far less range time, than the average citizen - "except" when mandatory training occurs and then the gun, unknown, as to, how it was taken cared of, prior, lubrication wise, via, too much or bone dry or combo of either, and dirty, but such an abused, neglected, weapon will show up with a sudden demand of over 500 to a 1000 ongoing rounds.. and jam up - Of that I'm quite sure

(thus a Glock, cheaper gun, all around, advantage) as a side note of such non-care needed gun for those non-owners with no pride/care attitudes, they do work.

On the other side of the coin, those that "simply" care for, and inspect, their Px4's, which takes all but 5 - 10 mins, that many report of ongoing 500 -1000 rounds range sessions with no problems.. none. The same for many with over 5K rounds, 8K rounds, and some like me with over 11K flawless, rounds.

It will be, and is always gonna be, setting the gun right, prior to use.. (knowing where one's gun stands") in both lubrication/s and time in-between last cleanings. Simply a no brainier "for most"

I've owned mine, now, for over 5yrs and, like many other Beretta Forum members and "owners" - with pride - tell the same positive stories with nothing to hide, as IF there is a bad one out there, "it gets fixed or replaced" and the Beretta Forum puts the_heat on BUSA, directly, day after day, week after week, month after month, "until that Px4, or any other type Beretta pistol, owner "is satisfied"..

We, they, play "no favorites"..

That would be a great start for the OP, "those that actually shoot them daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, under any, and all, conditions but with one great difference than an "issued sidearm" for most LEA's, and that is, as mentioned, each of such owner's "knows how and when his gun was last "set up" and how far it can and will go, without fail..



.. and beyond, nearly 6yrs, with never doubt in my mind about my Px4-G 40 along with "many, many, many, others"

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The reports exist, and they are not uncommon. They are from PDs and training facilities without something to gain or personal attachment to an opinion. If we are talking about a range toy, then who cares? Get what you want and shoot. If it's a defensive piece, the rules change. You might get a problem free pistol, you might not. Why take the chance when it's your life on the line? Get serious and get something proven, move past the emotional attachment.

If you look up, he says 11k rounds without a problem, I think thats more than just an "emotional attachment".

Now, when you read "current, on-going" range reports of Px4's, be them 9mm, 40cal, 45, or new Px4 Compact reviews, you'd find that 99% are positive be it with a Px4 with only 400 rounds out to, those like me, with over 12k "flawless rounds" where "the difference" is, simply, "owners pride" vs those that care less about taking care of one's "issued" weapon" and, in truth, far less range time, than the average citizen - "except" when mandatory training occurs and then the gun, unknown, as to, how it was taken cared of, prior, lubrication wise, via, too much or bone dry or combo of either, and dirty, but such an abused, neglected, weapon will show up with a sudden demand of over 500 to a 1000 ongoing rounds.. and jam up - Of that I'm quite sure

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Another THR'er posted that once he saw a cop show up in uniform with his duty piece, a HK USP in 9mm, at a shooting range and started to shoot it to have it jam up every other round. He said that the color left the cops face after realizing that he was relying on that to defend his life. The USP is a proven design and his was jamming because he apparently never maintained it.