SunnySlopes
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Gun Show Prices are absurd!!!
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tx_pistolero
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You have to know the going rate for stuff, and what is a deal and what is not.
I saw lots of good deals yesterday.
- A Taurus 1911 that my buddy negotiated down to $375,and then couldn't buy because the ATM at the gunshow had been removed on sunday
- A pretty damn nice lee enfield with a rock solid scope mount for $250 (probably could have gotten it for less)
- a Beretta 92, just barely used, marked $450.
- A lyman scale that looked new in the box from the 70's or 80's for $20
- I picked up a Glock 22 for $319.
These are just some of the deals I saw, that I can remember off of the top of my head.
I picked up 100rds of .45/200gr JSPs bullets (not loaded rounds) for $18, two pairs of mil-issue goretex pants for $10 a piece. A factory 15rd Glock 22 mag for $19.
Rule #1 at gun shows, is you don't just pay what something is marked. Almost everything is negotiable. Sometimes by a significant amount.
Those of you guys that say you can't find a good deal at a gun show, either don't know good deals when you see them, or go to crappy gun shows.
I saw lots of good deals yesterday.
- A Taurus 1911 that my buddy negotiated down to $375,and then couldn't buy because the ATM at the gunshow had been removed on sunday
- A pretty damn nice lee enfield with a rock solid scope mount for $250 (probably could have gotten it for less)
- a Beretta 92, just barely used, marked $450.
- A lyman scale that looked new in the box from the 70's or 80's for $20
- I picked up a Glock 22 for $319.
These are just some of the deals I saw, that I can remember off of the top of my head.
I picked up 100rds of .45/200gr JSPs bullets (not loaded rounds) for $18, two pairs of mil-issue goretex pants for $10 a piece. A factory 15rd Glock 22 mag for $19.
Rule #1 at gun shows, is you don't just pay what something is marked. Almost everything is negotiable. Sometimes by a significant amount.
Those of you guys that say you can't find a good deal at a gun show, either don't know good deals when you see them, or go to crappy gun shows.
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Owen Sparks
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The real culpret is INFLATION. For example, my Dad mail ordered a Remington made Mosin Nagant for $17.00 in 1960.
In 2011 dollars that would be about $130.00 which sounds about right.
In other words a dollar in 1960 would buy about $7.65 worth of stuff. See for yourself:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Shocking isn't it?
The problem is not that the price of used guns goes up but that the value of your money goes down. Inflation is an increase in the money supply and everytime a new dollar is printed it makes the value of the dollar in your pocket go down preportionatly.
In 2011 dollars that would be about $130.00 which sounds about right.
In other words a dollar in 1960 would buy about $7.65 worth of stuff. See for yourself:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Shocking isn't it?
The problem is not that the price of used guns goes up but that the value of your money goes down. Inflation is an increase in the money supply and everytime a new dollar is printed it makes the value of the dollar in your pocket go down preportionatly.
ErikO
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^this!
MD_Willington
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Last gun show I went to I spent $40, made $180, and walked out with a pile of free ammo...
I helped an older couple put all their wares back into their truck and they repaid me with ammo...
Other wise, yeah things are expensive for the most part.
I helped an older couple put all their wares back into their truck and they repaid me with ammo...
Other wise, yeah things are expensive for the most part.
leadcounsel
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Inflation is just natural. Everyone wants to make more money. Only way to do that is to increase prices incrementally.
Presumably, you'll make more in 10 years than you do today. The only way to do that is to increase prices.
And printing money doesn't help.
Fair prices for most things are on par with what they cost in 1960, our appetites are just out of control due to easy credit. Massive houses, multiple cars, huge gun collections, annual vacations, international travel, electronic gadgets, etc.
And I'm guilty as charged.
The cost of a house was about $15,000 - $30,000 in 1960 is about $115,000 - $230,000 today.
A new Ford Mustang was $2350 in 1960, and that translates into $18,000 today. Considering the advances in auto safety, efficiency, etc, not bad.
And a $500 pistol today would have bought you a $119 pistol in 1975.
Sounds about right, as long as you've been able to keep pace with inflaction. The people that get trampled are those without jobs or on fixed incomes.
To keep this gun related, I found an amazing gem at a recent gun show. In two consecutive shows I've found Ruger Security Sixs for under $400 each, in pristine condition. Oh, and I also met my new girlfriend!
Presumably, you'll make more in 10 years than you do today. The only way to do that is to increase prices.
And printing money doesn't help.
Fair prices for most things are on par with what they cost in 1960, our appetites are just out of control due to easy credit. Massive houses, multiple cars, huge gun collections, annual vacations, international travel, electronic gadgets, etc.
And I'm guilty as charged.
The cost of a house was about $15,000 - $30,000 in 1960 is about $115,000 - $230,000 today.
A new Ford Mustang was $2350 in 1960, and that translates into $18,000 today. Considering the advances in auto safety, efficiency, etc, not bad.
And a $500 pistol today would have bought you a $119 pistol in 1975.
Sounds about right, as long as you've been able to keep pace with inflaction. The people that get trampled are those without jobs or on fixed incomes.
To keep this gun related, I found an amazing gem at a recent gun show. In two consecutive shows I've found Ruger Security Sixs for under $400 each, in pristine condition. Oh, and I also met my new girlfriend!
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tx_pistolero
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Nice! Even better if she was actually there because she likes guns too, but cool either way...
CajunBass
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Just because something is priced higher than you are a willing to pay, doesn't mean it's a rip-off. You don't have to buy it.
I've never really understood why anyone would got to a show, be it gun, boat, car or whatever and really EXPECT to get a "deal." You just PAID to get in the door to see what "I" have to sell. That means you WANT to buy something. Why would "I" lower my price?
Because they don't make the guns I want to buy anymore. Even if I was to buy a new gun, the factory warranty is so far down on the list of things that I'm concerned about as to be out of sight.
I've never really understood why anyone would got to a show, be it gun, boat, car or whatever and really EXPECT to get a "deal." You just PAID to get in the door to see what "I" have to sell. That means you WANT to buy something. Why would "I" lower my price?
Because they don't make the guns I want to buy anymore. Even if I was to buy a new gun, the factory warranty is so far down on the list of things that I'm concerned about as to be out of sight.
22-rimfire
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That is right. You need to step back and consider just what a gun show IS these days... It is an organized event where sellers pay for the opportunity to sell to potential customers who gather and pay to attend the collective. These customers tend to enjoy or have an interest in firearms, buy firearms and accessories, and shoot. In my area, it is an opportunity for regular people to see guns they might not commonly see at the local retail gunshops, a chance for non-FFL holders to have access to a broader range of potential customers to sell gun related stuff, and it is an opportunity for the customer to negotiate the price of a purchase that is not available except with private sellers and some gun shops. Prices range from high to low just like any other "store" and what a fair price is determined as a common meeting ground where the buyer and seller "meet" on a fair price for something and exchange money or trade items of value. Nobody is required to buy or sell just because of their presence.
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