PDW Options Under 20" OAL?

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You just have to keep bringing up how versatile a SBR G17 is, don't you? ;)

Now I'm feeling a need to drop $200 on mine...
 
Hah! You know, even if I get this .300 BLK PDW thing off the ground, I've just about talked myself into the G17 SBR. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it sounds like a pretty good idea...
 
....darn you and your vile thoughts! :D

Seriously, I should have thought about this years ago. I'll have to start poking around for a folding front grip and stock, though. Should be a fun project. Certainly keep us posted on the 300BLK project, too!
 
Actually, since the serial numbered part of a Glock is the frame, it might make more sense to SBR a G35. Then you've got the longer barrel, the ability to convert to 9mm or .357 SIG at will, and you could even buy a G22 upper and throw it on there if you really wanted the shorter slide for something...

Edit: on the other hand, you could do the same thing in reverse with a G17. Buy a G35 slide assembly, convert to .357 SIG, and rock out with your Glock out. :eek:
 
And since I still have a G17 here... You're a bad influence, but the good kind, if that makes any sense! :)
 
PTK said:
And since I still have a G17 here...
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Yeah, I hear ya'. It's just so much more tempting when you're sitting there staring at the stupid thing, thinking to yourself, "You know, $200 and 6 months from now, I could have a brand new toy to play with!"
 
Zoogster said:
While weapon type typically plays little role in a clear cut self-defense scenario, if you start talking about scenarios where it does matter, a harder to obtain legal item can be even worse.
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Zoogster makes some very valid points, that go along with AlexanderA's points earlier. Perception can make a huge difference.

If you end up in a trial and your choice of firearm is brought to Jury, then you can find yourself in a dirty situation, no matter what the outcome.

Definately worth the food for thought. Thanks Guys.
 
Sgt_R said:
Yeah, I hear ya'. It's just so much more tempting when you're sitting there staring at the stupid thing, thinking to yourself, "You know, $200 and 6 months from now, I could have a brand new toy to play with!"
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And now that's what I'll be thinking. Thanks a lot. :neener:
 
How about the SU-16D9... 19.9" with the stock folded, 3.7 pounds.
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Takes standard AR mags and the barrel is threaded 1/2-28mm same as an AR-15.
 
Now I'm incredibly glad I sold my PLR16 a few years ago, or I would be sending in TWO stamps... :D
 
You know, I hadn't considered the Kel-Tec. I'm not really enamored with 5.56mm in an SBR platform, but now I wonder if the SU-16 could be rebarreled into 10" or so of .300 BLK...
 
Do they take standard AR type barrels? I'm rather uninformed when it comes to most of Kel-Tec's offerings, and I'm not sure how much parts commonality exists between the SU series and a traditional AR.
 
Just from looking at the manual with with parts breakdown on page 7 of 12, I see no serious issues with re-barreling. If there is no plastic formed to hold things in place that would be damaged or destroyed by removing the barrel, any competent gunsmith ought to be able to handle it. :)
 
Check out KTOG, one guy there rebarreled his SU-16 but it was a lot of work.

They are coming out with a .300 blk model so it would follow that they would make a D version of it. Who knows how long that will take though.
 
Saakee said:
You know, one of these in .458 SOCOM SBR'ed would be fun!
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If you're serious, the thread that mgregg85 linked to is a good read. Technically, it's well above my skill level as a 'garage gunsmith,' but I found some interesting stuff in there.

R
 
Sgt_R said:
{re: Honey Badger}Now that is just... wow. Any word yet on pricing or availability?
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AAC announced at shot that it will be available for LEO and Military later this year. Expecting civilian sales next year. Sorry. I've been eying this thing for MONTHS and very chance I get I badger AAC to make them available. No joy for at least 2 years.

I'll be waiting.....


Until then, I do have enough toys to keep me occupied! ;)
 
Two years to bring a product like that to market? That means, to me at least, that AAC won't be releasing them to civilians until they can actually make enough to meet demand.
 
Sgt_R said:
If you're serious, the thread that mgregg85 linked to is a good read. Technically, it's well above my skill level as a 'garage gunsmith,' but I found some interesting stuff in there.

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I read it last night, it was quite interesting and DEFINITELY above my skill level as well.
 
A pdw isn't meant to have great range to it. The theory behind pdws is that they get used at close range and often involve using pistol caliber cartridges for their ammo. I keep a Marlin .44 magnum lever action saddle carbine around my house for close range social events. It is a sweet shooter, very accurate and launches a big bore .44 magnum bullet like it is going out of style. I love my little carbine. So a good lever action carbine is something else for you to consider.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894CSS.asp

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894C.asp

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894Centerfire/1894.asp
 
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