NYC arrests CCWing nurse from TN

More than a few people have noted a similarity between plax and even "lil wayne" and these cases. The fact is plax discharged a firearm into himself in a public place, and little wayne had a stolen gun, both of them recieved jail time. I myself see more involved circumstances than race, notably the fact that all 3 recent defendants were trying to follow the law. Its no secret that plax and wayne are black and these recent 3 defendants are white. I would however like 1 person, out of the entire world population make rev AL SHARPTON see that there is more involved here than race. It wont happen. Regardless of the facts everyone knows what type of shat storm will erupt if we let whitey go. As a result the prosecution is forced to try these cases against their better judgement (i would say morals but nobody practicing law in NY has those).

my prayers go out to everyone

According to that link, you have to provide a thumb print to purchase a firearm... As a general principle, I do not like that... Not that it matters for me since the government has taken my fingerprints NUMEROUS times (security clearances, access to DoD facilities, CHL, etc), but if I had somehow managed to go all these years without getting my fingerprints taken, I do not think that I should have to give even one fingerprint just so I can buy a firearm. Then again, I think that you should just be able to walk into any sporting goods store, grab a firearm off the shelf, and take it to the front counter, just like buying any other sort of sporting goods... NFA34 and GCA68 are totally unconstitutional since they obviously violate the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" clause of the 2nd Amendment.

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Just put a few minute dots of superglue on your fingers before going. WHAM, PROBLEM SOLVED

Why couldn't they confiscate her gun and let her go instead of making an example of a good model citizen that did no harm to anyone and had good intentions of turning the gun in at the checkpoint.

New York City should be sold to china and no longer be part of the united states.Bloomberg should be in prison and most of the politicians and senators running there should all be in a chain gang too.

Why couldn't they confiscate her gun and let her go instead of making an example of a good model citizen that did no harm to anyone and had good intentions of turning the gun in at the checkpoint.

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There is a little thing called due process.

Assuming the nurse is a white female, if they let her go without arrest or any prosecution the next male non-white will say that he is being denied due process, even if she has a clean record and the guy has a long rap sheet.

(P.S., I am not saying that male non-whites have long rap sheets. I am saying that a male non-white could argue a due process violation if the white female gets a free pass)

SleazyRider said:

This is what jury nullification is all about ... if the jury is made aware of it, that is.

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If I was seated on her jury I'd attempt to get the jury to nullify. Problem is, I'd never get seated because they'd surely ask up front if anyone had any knowledge or pre-conceived conclusions about the case. And I'd have to answer yes because I have pre-conceived conclusions about ALL state gun laws: that they shouldn't exist!

The NYC cases that have come up in the open are a nurse, an ex-marine, a tea party activist who have in common (a) current out-of-state home state carry permit and (b) firearm legally acquired and owned under home state rules.*

The football player had an expired carry permit from FL; the rapper had a stolen gun.

Yeah, the only difference in treatment is race.

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*(If a tourist takes their own car to NY, do they have to have NY drivers license and NY registration?)

There is a little thing called due process.

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That just means she gets a trial.

'Prosecutorial discretion' allows the case to be dropped or plead down.

It may well also be plead down to avoid a federal challenge to the state law.

I think if you have a permit in your state you should not be thrown in jail for alerting a cop that you made a [mistake...]

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Suppose a visitor from the Netherlands pulls a baggy out of his pocket and asks the next cop he sees, "Hey, where can I stash my weed?" I'd bet Lars is going to jail. He might convince a jury to acquit because possession of a small amount of marijuana is legal in his home. But that's not a decision a police officer should make on the street.

The elected officials make the laws. The officers enforce them. Then juries decide on individual cases. That's the way it should work.

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I think if you have a permit in your state you should not be thrown in jail for alerting a cop that you made a misteak trying to being a good citizen you see this thing they call the best policey is old school if you forget you have your weapon in your holster or purse dont tell anybody until they are ready to or have to search you the penalty is the same.

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Just goes back to the old saying, "What the police don't know, can't hurt you..."

Not necessarily true in EVERY situation, but true in most...

For example, here in Texas, you can legally walk around with a rifle or shotgun most any place you want to (except a court of law, a place licensed to serve alcoholic beverages, the secure area of an airport, a polling place at the time of an election, and 1 or 2 others that I can't remember off the top of my head at this moment). Now, a cop might not know this and decide to arrest or shoot you for doing so, so you might be legally allowed to do said action, but you might end up dead in the process. At the very least, they can harass you and arrest you only for someone that does know the law at a later time to get them to drop the charges. In the meantime, your car has probably been towed, they've done an illegal search on your vehicle, and you're going to have to pay to get the vehicle out of the impound area. The end result as far as they are concerned is that they have stifled your assertion of your 2nd Amendment rights.

As predicted (not by me)...

NYC is ready to make a deal with the Marine who CCW'd to the Empire State Building. He has not said that he will take the deal--I wonder if the offered charge being a firearm-related misdemeanor would affect his ability to keep his CCW?

No word on the nurse, yet.

See the other THR thread on the case of the Marine. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=643253

Class A misdemeanor, no info on which specific charge (at least from what I can find). Not a good situation either way.

As a health practitioner, the nurse may have some serious career issues depending on whether they extend the same plea. The Nurse Practitioner board could suspend or revoke her nursing license, or make her jump through some hoops upon renewal. Also, if she's working for one of the large HCAs, then her HR people may have some new careers suggestions for her...

You can't carry in NYC
You can't carry in NYC
You can't carry in NYC

lol, do we need Bart Simpson to write it on a chalkboard? Some people are not very bright - I'm sorry if my sympathy is lagging on this issue, but did she sleep through her CC class?