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i have been reloading with a freind on a rcbs press and i want to get into reloading but i have a good deal on a coulple lee press and all the other goodys to go with it dies shell holders scales all the above he wants to get out of it and i can get evrything for penneys on the doller are they good or should i just buy a rcbs since ive been useing my freinds i like it but havent used a lee
 
I started with a Lee kit and like there products except there scale. When I called them for some help they were very helpful. in short good stuff and good people.
 
And away we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Lee has been in business for years and have grown thruout this time, they make good products as do many of the other companies. Personnally I believe their price structure is fantastic and their value is super but that is just MO.
 
I really like just about all Lee reloading equipment, except their progressive presses. I have never owned one, but have been able to use ones belonging to others. I wasn't really impressed.
 
Need three things:

Depends on the press, the price and your needs.

With the information you have given, I would say, "Yes, absolutely." But then, the only information you have given is that there is more than one press, there are some accessories and there is a dollar figure in play.

If it is two or the very cheapest Lee presses, a scale and various trimmers and chamfer tools and the price is $250, I would say "no".

Please give us a packing list and the expected price. Or the packing list and I will give a price I think is reasonable. It will be about 3/4 of the new price if the gear is in good condition. Maybe a little more if it is cosmetically good, too.

What about manuals? If he is including the manuals, he is probably really getting out of reloading. If not, he may just be trading up, selling the Lee gear to get Dillon or something.

However, one additional piece of information is needed. What are your needs? Calibers, quantities and your goals.

Thanks for asking our advice. Please help us help you with more information.

Lost Sheep

P.S. Will he throw in training? Might not make a difference to the seller, but could make a world of difference to you and it would affect my bargaining tactics.

P.P.S. I started out on RCBS, but recently switched to Lee Classic Turret as the center of my reloading bench.
 
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I've been reloading for a couple of years now. I have the Lee classic press. I had a plastic piece brake once. It was easily fixed and has been running great ever since. I say go for it and upgrade later if you feel the need.
 
I have to agree, I have a Lee Kit and use it all still after almost 3 years. I have some additional stuff, and I still use it for certain tasks. If you in fact consider it a deal the quality is good. There are better but it is quality stuff, and will last you for years if taken care of. I think my Lee press will out last me. The scales, and powder measures maybe not. Good Dies, shell holders and trimmers. I would jump on it for a good deal.
 
I love my finicky 4 hole turret... 40,000 or so and its still going. On its third lock up bushing, but there only .50 cents from lee
 
I use a Lee Classic Cast single stage and a Classic Turret. I've been very happy with both. Also use Lee dies (mostly). Only Lee item I decided was more hassle than necessary was their Perfect Powder Scale. It works, but it is a pain to adjust. I'm much happier with my RCBS 505.
 
I've been using Lee products for years now and I have to say, despite their poor directions on their user's manuals, I've been very happy with thier products. (The videos on the website are alot more helpful)
 
4 years ago, I decided to try my hand at reloading 45ACP. Having had no previous experience, I had no bias towards any brand of reloading equipment. After lurking on this and another forum and using the "search mode" I determined that for my needs the Lee Classic Turret Press (LCT) was the answer and that Kempf Gun Shop was the place to order it from. A very knowledgable lady named Sue helped me over the phone. I now also load 380ACP, 357 Magnum and 357SIG on the press. Changing out the turrets is quick and easy. A turret and the Lee carbide dies will set you back about $50 per caliber. While the press can be used as a single stage press if you so choose, I've never found the need to use it that way as the learning curve for the turret process is quite simple. It is not a progressive press; you will need to pull the handle 4 times for each round produced, but you can keep an eye on the entire process, minimizing glitches, errors and the need to become proficient at using a bullet puller. I am in the group of satisfied owners that contend that the LCT is the best bang for the reloading dollar. EHL's comments about their poor directions is very accurate, but the forums and You Tube can easily counter the problems you might have with the directions. At around 200 rounds per hour, it serves my needs very well. I did not let the lack of a lifetime warranty bother me because the "searches" turned up too many good comments about the LCT and Lee customer service, and Lee products are American made. I wish you only the best in your deliberation and choice.
 
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Thank you all for the replies it is well used I am sorry for lack of info. I don’t know exactly what he has his, father passed away and he’s not into reloading. All he said is there are three press, one with a round plate with four holes I’m assuming a turret, one with one hole, and one with multiply bottles I’m assuming shotgun. The dies I’m not really worried about because I bought all I need already. Multiply books come with it. I’m thinking I can get the whole pile for around two hundred and I’m looking at it all Monday night.
 
Well it sounds like a good deal to me also. I bet that the extra stuff you get that's not needed or wanted you can resell piecemeal here on the for sale forum and make some of your money back. I have done that exact same thing myself.
 
take a look at pricing on lee stuff before you go so you know what you are looking at. I have no problems recommending Lee equipment (except for their progressives. they work, but they take work to make go. not for noobs) but if it's older model stuff, I wouldn't give more than 50 bucks for the single stage or the turret, and 25 for the shotgun (if it's lee's shotgun loadall) books $10 each. twenty $ tops for scales, dies and powder dispensers. shell holders are free with dies. $15-20/lb for unopened powder, $25 for unopened primers 1k/ct. That's my sight unseen fair price take on it. I'd probably offer 20% or more under that depending on my relationship to seller and the condition of the equipment.
 
mo bow,

Check out the Lee new products pricing at the factorysales.com site before you jump into the used equipment.

IMO the aluminum presses should not be in the same used pricing as the cast steel models. The scale as noted is not that great of a product.

Lee has some great products of which I own and use several.
 
I assume the seller is not your reloading friend. So, I do not know your relationship with the seller. If a good friend, it would affect MY bargaining approach. So, I will leave the bargaining tactics to your judgement. If he considers you taking the gear off his hands in one big batch a favor or if he is desperate for the money, might make a difference to you also. Your call.

one with a round plate with four holes I’m assuming a turret
Right you are. Lee makes two versions. The Deluxe Turret (aluminum base shaped like a truncated pyramid) and the Classic Turret, (flat base, cast iron or steel). The Classic is far superior to the Deluxe for a number of reasons. Classic sells new for $85 and the Deluxe for $72. Used, $80 and $40.

Spare turrets are $9-$10 each and worth every penny. You mount your dies and just change the whole set in the turret, never having to readjust.

There should be a twisted rod in the center of the press (auto-indexing rod, $5 if it is missing). Take the handle of the press and cycle it through its entire range of motion and the rod and turret should rotate one-quarter turn. If it doesn't, there is something missing or broken. The good news is that the most likely broken part is only one dollar for two of them.

DO NOT partial stroke it. DO NOT force it. The turret should rotate counter-clockwise (from a looking-down vantage point). If you force it, you will break the square ratchet that turns the rod and will embarrass yourself and hurt your bargaining position. The part is only 50 cents, however. Lots of people break them, but it is easy to avoid if you know how. Two ways: 1) If the press gets jammed up, move the handle so the ram goes UP. That disengages the ratchet from the notches. Then turn the turret so it clicks into the spring detents and try it again. 2) If the press gets jammed up, just grab the turret and rotate it in the counter-clockwise direction of normal turret travel while gently moving the ram DOWN (operating arm going up). This may take more than two hands, though.

one with one hole,
Lee makes a hand press for $25 that is handy for loading if you don't have a loading bench. But for quantity loading it is inconvenient. It is aluminum.

Lee's Reloader press also costs $25 but mounts on a bench (there will be three bolt holes cast in the aluminum base). It is open in the front (called a "C" press) and not very strong. But will do for smaller cartridges. When you get to the big belted magnum rifle cartridges you may find it wanting.

Lee's Challenger press is aluminum also and the lightest duty press I would recommend. $40 - $46.

Lee's Classic Cast is cast iron and very good. Almost as good as your friend's RockChucker.

Especially on the aluminum presses, check the ram for any wobble. If the ram is not in perfect alignment while reloading, you ammo will suffer.

If the single hole presses (Single Stage is the proper term) have a small button and slightly larger threaded hole than the holes in the turrets, that is so they will accept bushings. That also means they are fairly new and very handy. You mount a die in the bushing and the bushing just snaps in with a twist of the wrist (and the button locks it). If the hole is the same as the holes in the turret, that is no big deal. Changing dies (and adjusting them) is not that difficult. Bushings are a $3.24 each, sold in pairs for $6.48).


one with multiply bottles I’m assuming shotgun.
I am not familiar with shotgun loading presses, but dollars to doughnuts, you are correct.


The dies I’m not really worried about because I bought all I need already.
Different die makers have a few details different. For example, the Lee pistol dies for case mouth expansion allow charging gunpowder right through the (hollow center) die. You can even mount the Lee Auto-Disk powder measure on the die and it operates automatically. Lee's FCD (Factory Crimp Die) is right handy.

Spare sets of dies make good trading goods, too.


I’m thinking I can get the whole pile for around two hundred and I’m looking at it all Monday night.
Loading manuals run around $25 to $40 each and if they are of recent publication, a good source of both load data and instruction. If older that 5-10 years, their value as load data information my be limited by the absence of new powders and new cartridges. If they are the "One Book, One Caliber", their price new is about $9 each and have little instructional value, but loads of load data.

If older, offer 1/4 to 1/3 the cover price. If newer, offer 1/2 to 3/4.

I’m thinking I can get the whole pile for around two hundred and I’m looking at it all Monday night.

Most probably, there is a scale in there, too. The Lee scale sells new for $25 or so and is worth that. Any other balance beam scale will be at least twice that or more. The Lee only measures powder or lighter bullets (100 grain maximum) but is the euql in accuracy to any other scale. Many people find it hard to read, though. Be sure to get the instruction shee (available on the web).

Probably there is an Auto-Disk powder measure or maybe more than one. worth at least $20 to $30 if you will use it. It is about the ultimate in convenient powder dropping, but only works on Lee dies. You will want to use the swivel adapter and a riser with it, but those are almost certain to be in the miscellaneous parts.


So far, the parts I am sure of add up to (wild guess on pricing, and what I would expect from a stranger at a gun show, but I would be merciless in bargaining. (Translated, that means these guesses are higher than I would expect to ultimately pay). Taking the whole lot (even the pieces I don't need or want) usually results in a big discount. Required cleaning or coming up with missing parts usually results in a big discount, too.

$30 Turret Press
$25 Single Stage press
$25 Shotgun Press
$50 Manuals (assuming 3 of recent publication. Add $7 for each additional one)
$20 to $150 Scale
$20 Autodisk powder measure (multiply times the number of them)
$25 to $40 each for die sets.
$10 each for extra turrets

If someone offered the 3 presses in good working order, a scale, 3 older manuals and 3 sets of dies all mounted in turrets and one or two Auto-Disk powder measures, I would offer $140 to $150 and let him bargain me up to $200 and walk away happy. If there is brass, powder, bullets and primers involved, add $2 per hundred primers. Factory sealed powder, $20 per pound. Opened powder containers makes good fertilizer (high in nitrogen), but iffy for use in ammunition as you don't know if the powder in the container is actually what the label says (unless you know and trust the guy who had it). Brass varies in value a lot. Price for bullets you should research on the web for your area.

Good luck.

Lost Sheep

P.S. I didn't mean to go on for so long and I know reading this without ever having had hands on the gear (especially the Turret press and Shotgun press) is like trying to breathe in a vaccuum, but I hope it helps more than it hurts.

Send pictures when you get the stuff.
 
Nope. All Lee stuff is junk stay away!!
Can I have his phone number?

Almost all of my stuff is Lee. Make sure what comes with it, read the manuals, (LOADING MANUALS) at least two, better three before starting. Do not trust his settings, learn then start low and work up your own loads.
If the shotgun press is MEC, also red, that is good stuff too.
 
LEE? Yeessss!!!!

Been reloading over 25+ years, 13 calibers(no shotguns). I originally started with a LeePro1000 I picked up from a retired cop (I now have 2) and 2 single stages for my rifle cartridges. Some calibers have gone away but I have always liked the resulting ammo from my Lee dies. You can pay more for other brands, but why? Unless you are shooting high power competition, Lee products will more than suffice. Oh I pcked up that first Pro1000 in 1983 and it is still going strong,
I think I replaced a few parts in it 7 or 8 years ago. Have no fear make the deal!!
 
Lee 50th Anniversary

I've recently begun reloading with the Lee 50th anniversary kit from Cabelas--if you're persistent you'll catch them on sale. For loading 38 special and 357 mag, it has been flawless, as I've about 1800 rounds through it. I will highly recomend two upgrades:
-a digital scale from Graf's (I'm in your area, too) MTM brand for about $30
-the Lee Pro Auto Disk powder measure--for 231 this has been excellent-I weigh every 10, but now with the auto disk I weigh every 25 and I've not had more than .1 grain variance. This is $38 from Graf's--cheaper than Cabela's.

Hope this helps--I will say that the Lee balance scale was highly inaccurate for me--very inconsistant--when you're talking handgun powder charges, there is not room for error.

Hope this helps, and good luck--as other's have said--get a couple of reload manuals--always start on the lower starting load when there is a discrepancy.
 
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