Mossberg Persuader Stock

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I have noticed quite a few places online selling an 8-shot Mossberg Persuader with the pistol grip for $269 to $289. This seems like a good deal. However, it's unclear to me if the shotgun also comes with a conventional stock? If not, is it difficult to add? Any suggestions?

Thanks for any input!
 
The 500 Persuader I picked up yesterday from Academy came with the conventional stock, and the pistol grip.
Although the pistol grip is just hard plastic, and seems like it would turn your hand into dust firing heavy loads from it. :p


And no. Stocks are easy to replace on shotguns. Just remove the shoulder pad/ butt plate, and use a long flat head screw driver on the bolt down inside the stock.
 
A few 1 1/4 oz. 3 3/4 dram shells will convince you to ditch the pistol grip and put a real stock on it.
 
Yup - not really interested in the pistol grip, I just like the price and the 8 shot capacity. That's why I was asking how difficult it is to put on a conventional stock.
 
There is a persuader model that comes with 8 shot tube, heatshield, pistol grip, and full stock for around $330. Once the novelty wears off, you will want the full stock!
 
What do you guys think of the 8-shot vs. 6-shot, so 18" vs. 20" barrel? Does the added weight of the larger 8-shot bother anyone?
 
I bought the 20" PGO model and ditched the PG for a Knoxx collapsible stock with the recoil reduction thing. I highly recommend the Knoxx stock. It's comfortable and the recoil reduction really works. It has no real noticeable recoil with 00 buck.

I'd definitely go with the 20 inch model. The slight reduction in weight and the 1.5" less in overall length is not worth going from 7+1 to 5+1.
 
I had the 5rd mossberg 500 with PG, I shot just a few rounds with it and traded it off. However, all the mossberg stocks are interchangeable, I prefer the Knoxx adjustable stock.
 
+1 on the Knoxx recoil reduction stock. Put one on my 500 about two weeks ago and it made a big difference for me. My SG originally came with the synth full stock. The recoil system does work but I believe the fact that the new stock allowed me to adjust LOP may have made more difference.
 
Keep in mind that other 500 barrels only work with the 5 round mag tube. If you get a Persuader with the 8 round mag tube, you're severely limiting what barrels you can use. Of course, you could always buy the 6 round tube, but that's additional cost you'd have to factor in.

Considering the above, I bought a 500 yesterday from Dunham's Sports with a 5 round mag tube, full stock, heat shield, and 18.5" barrel for $269.99. I think the deal ended today, though.

YMMV, especially if you already own sporting and/or hunting oriented pump shotguns.
 
Yup - not really interested in the pistol grip, I just like the price and the 8 shot capacity. That's why I was asking how difficult it is to put on a conventional stock.

Well, step 1 is drive to the hardware store and find the longest screwdriver you can find. The rest is easy.
 
My Persuader came with an Allen head bolt instead of a slot or Phillip Head. I ordered the Knoxx stock and they provided an extra long AH wrench.
 
I have a 500 which came with both a pistol grip and a standard stock. I like the grip, although I did switch from the Mossberg grip to a ATI PG which helps with some of the recoil. Better, but not best...I've gotten used to it I guess. I recently saw, and I'm going to try a Ducks Head grip on it. I have a 590 SP with a Hogue shorter LOP stock on it (which I love) but on my 500, I just happen to like the HD maneuverability and concealability of the pistol grip. Changing from a pistol grip to a conventional stock is extremely easy.
 
"Changing from a pistol grip to a conventional stock is extremely easy".....

So, do it. Your effectiveness with a tool that your life may depend on will be greatly increased.Isn't the whole idea of a defensive weapon being effective?

As for maneuverability, until we develop an extra hinge in our forearms, there's little advantage to a PGO.

In fact, the sole advantage is storage.
 
Mine came with the pistol grip and a folding stock, heat shield and sling... I put on the Mag-Lite...

The picture is a little deceiving... the stock does not interfere with ejecting a empty shell and chambering another round...


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Re: Concealability:

"Uh. Umm. What? Do you only wear trench coats? "

No trench coats, but, I can toss my PGO in my truck and conceal it there while tucked in a scabbard a lot easier than I can my 590SP w/ a full stock.
 

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"Changing from a pistol grip to a conventional stock is extremely easy".....

So, do it. Your effectiveness with a tool that your life may depend on will be greatly increased.Isn't the whole idea of a defensive weapon being effective?

As for maneuverability, until we develop an extra hinge in our forearms, there's little advantage to a PGO.

In fact, the sole advantage is storage.
Hey Dave, your points are well taken, but, with my understanding of the significance of a full stock on a shotgun, I would never say a PG is...say for instance, 'better', nor even more effective in most situations than a full stock on a shotgun. I have a M590 that will never have a PG on it. I love and appreciate it as is.

However, when I mentioned HD and maneuverability, I'm referring to how easy it is to get around my home...through halls, around corners, up and down stairs etc. with my M500 PGO compared to doing the same with the longer barrelled 590 with a full stock.

Understanding there are limitations with one compared to the other, for HD, the PGO IMO will suffice very well. I practice with it often, and I have great confidence in my ability to hit what I shoot at with it...therefore making it for me, using it in the capacity I plan to use it in, quite effective.
 
Used to have a Cruiser myself and bought a knoxx stock exactly as purposed. It's an easy swap; 5 minutes or less, done. Hint: Shop around on ebay. Don't pay full price for one of these things if you don't have to.

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Don't discount the pistol grip in close quarters. It's imminently manageable with 00 buck and if you're worried about aim, throw a flashlight laser combo on it as shown above. That stock is great for heavy recoil reducing, but for tight spaces in the middle of the night (say, home defense) the pistol grip is king IMO.
 
Guys, Clint Smith will teach you to run a pump,auto, double barrel of either kind and even a single shot as a defensive tool. He doesn't teach PGOs.

In fact, nobody does. Nor do they show up much in the armories of folks who really do go in harm's way. Exception, breaching, but civilians do not have to blast doors off much.

And while 3 gun and practical competitions are not quite the same, we see zero PGOS turn up there.

In short, PGOs are a big handicap at a time and place where you want the odds in your favor.

But don't take my word for it. Go shoot your PGO at any course of fire,score and time it. Bolt a real stock on and repeat. Chances are you'll not go back to the PGO.
 
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