Is this a good ar set-up?

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For my first ar, I want a gun that will be great for home defense and/or tactical use. I looked around a lot, and I have narrowed it down.
My options are:
the Colt LE6920 MOE carbine rifle with a Magpul vfg, Aimpoint micro T-1 2moa red dot sight, Dueck Defense Rapid Transition Sights, Surefire 6px pro light in a Daniel Defense offset mount, and Ergo ladder rail protectors

Daniel Defense m4v3 OR Daniel Defense m4 with all of the above accessories plus a Magpul MOE grip and a Noveske kx3 flaming pig flash suppressor.

Noveske n4 light recce 16" MOE with the aforementioned

BCM EAG tactical carbine with whatever accessories I mentioned that it doesn't already have.

or finally, the Stag Arms 3g with the aforementioned accessories.

I'm really leaning heavily to the DD m4 carbine after watching their torture test video. (That's also why I chose the Aimpoint micro T-1) If you guys have any suggestions for other parts, I'm open to them. I'd also like to hear suggestions on which to choose.

I forgot to mention I'll also be using the Accutant Anglesight.

(as to possible ar vs. ak arguments, I changed my mind from an Eotech xpsII (I think) with the flip to the side magnifier when I saw the DD m4 torture test. With the money I save by buying the Aimpoint, I'm getting a 7.62x39mm Saiga rifle.)
 
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Any of those first three would most likely be good to go. I'm not as familiar with how they are building stags so I wont comment.

If it were me I would not put a KX3 on a 16" gun, too much weight out there on the end. I would do an Ops inc M4-S or other mini suppressor because I feel that the weight there comes with more benefit in terms of reducing noise, flash, and blast. If I didn't want a suppressor I would go with a vortex flash hider. They are in my experience highly effective.

If those are all in your budget I would get the noveske. In fact that is what I got (and it even has a T1 on it although the rest is different).
 
I have a stag arms. Really great rifle, solid all the way around. The only complaint I could Come up with would be a grainy trigger pull when I first got it. Couple hundred rounds through it and it smoothed out tho. But you won't need to worry about that. If I'm not mistaken the 3G comes with a Geissele super 3-gun trigger. I'm sure any of those rifles would serve you well.
 
Come on guys, 56 looks and 2 replies?!?!

Any opinions on any of the products I mentioned would be appreciated. So would suggestions on other accessories to use instead of the ones I mentioned.
 
The carbines you picked are good choices. The t1 is also a great choice. I've never heard of the other sights you mentioned. The rest of the stuff isnt necessary but may be helpful depending on how you intend to use it. Could help or could just be extra weight
 
The carbines you picked are good choices. The t1 is also a great choice. I've never heard of the other sights you mentioned. The rest of the stuff isnt necessary but may be helpful depending on how you intend to use it. Could help or could just be extra weight
The Dueck Defense RTS are sights mounted to the top rail, but they are offset at a 45* angle. (the 1:30 position) They allow fast target acquisition at different ranges by simply rotating the gun slightly to bring the sights into view.

The Accutact Anglesight is something truly awesome that I hadn't ever heard of until I saw it at Optics planet. It's basically a cube with a window in the back and the side. It contains prisms or mirrors or something that allow you to look through either the rear or side window and see an unobstructed view through the rifles sights.(you mount it behind your optic on the top rail) It allows you to shoot around corners without exposing yourself at all. You can also twist the cube so that the window on the side can face the opposite side, straight upwards, or whichever direction you want on that plane. You can't also mount it to the rail of a pistol, although you can't use the pistols sights with it.
 
The Dueck Defense RTS are sights mounted to the top rail, but they are offset at a 45* angle. (the 1:30 position) They allow fast target acquisition at different ranges by simply rotating the gun slightly to bring the sights into view.

Honestly, unless you are running a 3-gun match with a magnified optic, I do not see the need for sights on an offset mount. Use a set of BUIS on the top rail and gas block in case for some reason the aimpoint fails. You are trying to add a lot that is going to make a 6.5 lb carbine weigh over 10 lbs and it just isn't necessary.

I wouldn't even mount the flashlight in an offset mount. Mount it to either the left of right rail on the handguard so that you save the weight of the offset mount.


And as far as the anglesight goes, I (personally) don't like it (and would not put one on my personal AR). If you are trying to stick your gun in the doorway and a BG is close by, it could turn into a struggle for your weapon because it takes extra time to process what you are seeing and the weapon is not tight against your body.
 
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save yourself the gadgetry and buy some ammo.

for a guy that's never shot an ar, you'd likely be better served by getting a basic carbine and learning the platform first.
 
I'm not really worried about the weight with this specific ar, but I understand where you're coming from. I recently realized that the lightest rifle I was carrying around the woods was a precision bolt action rifle with a 4-16x44mm scope on it that weighed in at about 11.5-12lbs loaded.
Anyway, if I can carry that rifle around all day in the field hunting and shoot it unsupported at 300yds, I figure I can shoot the ar without a problem. Besides, I would detach the anglesight when it's not in use. Also, I figure the rear RTS would be the same weight as a rear folding BUIS, so I'm not worried about that. The front RTS would only be a few ounces, and the weight of the offset flashlight mount would be "OFFSET" by the added speed of not having to release the vfg to activate the light.

So anyway, I'm not worried about weight here.(to an extent)
 
I just realized that I did shoot an ar once. But anyway, I have shot plenty of other guns. I have roughly 16 guns right now. (I also have 6 air-rifles, but they aren't included in the count.)
 
and the weight of the offset flashlight mount would be "OFFSET" by the added speed of not having to release the vfg to activate the light

Even if the light is on the right rail as opposed to the offset mount, a pressure switch can still be attached to the AFG. And even though it is only a few ounces, they do add up.

What it comes down to is that it is your rifle. What you have picked would make a great gun, but you might also find that it could be a little cumbersome of a weapon for defense. Only you can make that call, we are just trying to give you other ideas as well. Let us know what you go with, and please, post some pictures!
 
Every rifle you listed was a different configuration. The first you you need to do is decide what basic rifle configuration you want. Then find the best piece for the best price. For me it was the ddm4v5 with a lightweight barrel. You may only want a 9 inch rail for yours. Get a cheap red dot and some good basic iron sights and get comfortable with the gun before you go buying piles of gadgets. Ars also have aluminum receivers and plastic stocks so they're not like a hunting rifle you will start to notice the barrel being hard to hold acurratly at longer distances because the light rear doest keep the gun balanced once you start adding weight to the front. Of the companies you listed I'd stay away from the stag. Not that they are bad but you can get a top tier ar for just a couple hundred more. Try looking at bcm's website they have a lot of stuff on there. The price difference you are paying is for the extra procedures done to the materials of the weapon to really make it last. One other thing you could do is buy a complete lower from a local gun store and then order your complete upper and have it shipped straight to you. As you become more and more comfortable with the gun the more you will see you don't need all the extra stuff. As far as if you put a red dot don't buy the cheapest thing you can get but it doesn't have to be an aimpoint to be decent. Good luck and do lots of research about what ever you decide on before you throw down the money.
 
Even if the light is on the right rail as opposed to the offset mount, a pressure switch can still be attached to the AFG. And even though it is only a few ounces, they do add up.

What it comes down to is that it is your rifle. What you have picked would make a great gun, but you might also find that it could be a little cumbersome of a weapon for defense. Only you can make that call, we are just trying to give you other ideas as well. Let us know what you go with, and please, post some pictures!
Are the pressure switches reliable though? I thought I read somewhere that they weren't very reliable.
 
Honestly, unless you are running a 3-gun match with a magnified optic, I do not see the need for sights on an offset mount. Use a set of BUIS on the top rail and gas block in case for some reason the aimpoint fails.

I would agree with that.
 
I would agree with that.
I guess the RTS really aren't necessary. I'll get them just to try out though. I like the concept though. I guess for my next ar 15, I'll use them. That way I'll be able to get some practice with them and see if I really like them. (My next ar will be an 18" heavy barreled rifle with a 1-4x24mm scope, so the RTS would probably be useful there)

But are the pressure switches reliable, I'm still wondering if I could trust my life to it should the need arise.
 
But are the pressure switches reliable, I'm still wondering if I could trust my life to it should the need arise.

As long as you don't go cheap, they are very reliable. I have not seen a single LEO/Military AR-style rifle that does not have a pressure switch to go along with a light.

I would think it rather dumb to not use a pressure switch...It is faster, more ergonomic, and easier for a momentary on/off. Honestly, how easy would it be to keep a fighting grip on the rifle while you are trying to manipulate the button on the back of a flashlight? Not nearly as easy as with just the squeeze of your hand.
 
What would you guys think about the DD m4v5 instead of the m4 or the m4v3??

I would not take the v5 over the M4V3 personally. The added rail adds more weight. I carry my AR around our ranch for several hours (the time it takes to check the fence lines), and even with only an optic and a foregrip it gets heavy.

I would take the M4V2 over all of them personally. For a HD rifle, I would rather have a carbine length over a midlength rifle. (I would take the 6920 out of your original choices)
 
Any of those that you have listed are fine. For your stated purpose you don't need a high priced AR. I like (and have) a Stag. I also think that you'd be fine without optics; iron sights will get the job done and keep weight to a minimum.

Also consider a grip change. The AR grip IMHO is too small so I bought a Magpul MOE which fits my hand better and offers more control of the uber-powerful .223. :)
 
I have the v5 and I live it. The mid length gas system is nice and the rail Is very light. The whole setup weighs less than 7 pounds. You can't go wrong with any dd. If your not sure what you really want get the m4xv and put the rails on it later or the m4xvez which has a cheaper drop in quadrail instead of a free float. I like that I can mount a bi pod on the front of my rail without have to move the for grip when I shoot long distance.
 
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