Full Auto .25/9mm Mailed To Your Door No FFA No Registration

I saw the title and thought that it was someone advertising an Illegal Machine for sale. Looks like a lot of fun!

It's just like a totally normal airsoft gun.

My Ignorance . . .

How is it that I remain ignorant of all these cool toys?

Having trouble nailing down things like muzzle velocity, effective range, and energy comparisons to something like, oh, .22 LR.

Also, what's the charging system, and what's the fall-back field charging system? Said differently, if you have no access to electric compressors, or pre-bottled air, how do you charge it?

And the .25 cal pellets? I was unaware they even made those.

Who has the skinny, and can articulate the high points for me?

See here for more info. Apparently the .25 cal model has a muzzle velocity of 910 feet per second.

Needs a higher capacity mag.

Needs to not cost $1700...

Upon Review . . .

I think I'd rather go with one of the big bore designs.

Something in a nice .356 (interesting bore) perhaps.

Anybody making a decent repeater in the .30 - .357 caliber range?

I noticed the Sam Yang Recluse in 9mm/.357 (with .356 ammo), but that one doesn't seem to be available as a repeater.

Heck, I figure a five-shot magazine would be just fine.

Gotta agree, though: the price tags on those things are pretty intimidating.

I mean, for the price of one of those things, I could pick up a Ruger 10/22, a fist full of factory mags, and more than 5,000 rounds of .22 LR and still come in under the price of just the rifle (for the Recluse), never mind all the ancillary gear to keep it running.


But, man, are they ever shiny!

I had a Tokyo Mauri AEG M4 style airsoft gun with upgraded internals, I got her up to 702FPS before I started stripping gears constantly.

These are the air-soft guns that run of a batteries, no compressed air.

My biggest mistake was letting my older brother get ahold of it, he peppered one of his buddys at around a 15 - 20 foot range -- he didn't think I was serious about how powerful it really was --, we had to pull the BBs out they only penetrated to be level with his skin, he was bleeding a lot -- such a dumb moment.

The high end airguns are spendy -- but you can shoot in your basement or backyard. For all except the most powerful ones of course.

And the ammo costs pay for themselves quickly. How else can you get 500 rounds of the best match-grade ammo for under $15??

The place to get up to speed on high-end airguns is:
http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/
It's a daily blog with an archive that has several years of very interesting articles from a professional writer. There's an active comment section with lots of helpful folks.

Watch your wallet though. Gets addictive and expensive fast.....

True, you can by a 10/22 for less than a PCP.
BUT, it won't be as accurate as a decent PCP.
My .22 Benjamin Marauder is more accurate than it has a right to be, it kills squirrels with aplomb, and it is mouse-fart quiet. I can shoot a lot of squirrels without them knowing I'm even there. One shot with a rimfire, and you just alerted every squirrel in the county.
My Sam Yang 909 .454 PCP hits a LOT harder than a .22 LR.

You don't buy a PCP or any other quality airgun because it's comprably priced to a low end powder burner, such as a Ruger 10/22.
You by it because of the quality and because it's something you like and possibly even have a use for.
Plus, they're fun.

The Brady gang will have fun with that one. They won't say it is an airgun either, just that we need more controls to stop people from buying machineguns by mail.

Jim

Nothing they can do about it. It's not a firearm.