Your definition of DAO

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"I simply don't agree with your logic"

My "logic" being a pistol that is carried at least 98% cocked can't possibly be DAO?

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It seems that at first they thought I was wrong there also until they actually bothered to look at their own guns then they agreed with me.
 
So if I am wrong then you should be able to explain why this gun is a DAO.

What am I wrong about exactly. Is the gun not about 98% cocked or more?

If you agree it is then how can you say it is DAO?

I don't understand.
 
Also the opinion of the BATF does not mean much to me and it should not to you. If they had their way we would ALL be completly disarmed.
 
Most people could care less what name is given to their gun's action. Some people say they care but do not understand what they are talking about. And those who do understand make their own assessments without relying on somebody else's label.

I do sorta' like the idea of including overcoming positive sear engagement (examples were SKS or AR rifles) in the definition of DAO. Just think how many folks will be relieved that those evil military rifles are really safe DAO weapons. :evil:
 
See post #40. I'm done arguing with people on the internet tonight.
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My definition is simple. If double action, The trigger accomplishes two actions. In my opinion the Glock is technically a DAO with a light trigger pull that has the same manual of arms as a SAO.
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??? A lot of us agree with that part. The M&P is very similar to the Glock in almost every way, with a few exceptions. One of which is very pertinent to what you have been arguing for the last page.

... or:
My definition is simple. If double action, The trigger accomplishes two actions. In my opinion the Glock is technically a DAO with a light trigger pull that has the same manual of arms as a SAO.
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Sorta like my DAO 1911 series 80 Gold Cup? The double action trigger not only drops the hammer, it also lifts the firing pin safety.
 
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"I do sorta' like the idea of including overcoming positive sear engagement (examples were SKS or AR rifles) in the definition of DAO. Just think how many folks will be relieved that those evil military rifles are really safe DAO weapons."

Not just the SKS and AR but this also means that a whole lot more designs that were called SA many years, longer than we have all been alive, DAO.

In fact there are very few SA designs left in this world if we use that definition.

The Mossberg shotgun I worked on a while back was DAO. The trigger pull moved the hammer to the rear about a millimeter or so.

The British Enfield rifle does this to some degree. Or at least mine does.
 
GLOOB said:
Post #40:
Bolded text by me:

??? A lot of us agree with that part. The M&P is very similar to the Glock in almost every way, with a few exceptions. One of which is very pertinent to what you have been arguing for the last page.

... or:

Sorta like my DAO 1911 series 80 Gold Cup? The double action trigger not only drops the hammer, it also lifts the firing pin safety.
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You're right, by not including more detail in my simple definition I've accidentally lumped every pistol with a trigger activated firing pin safety into the DAO category.
 
Oh, no! :eek: Now we have another category - TAO - the triple-action trigger. The TAO performs three functions: cocks the hammer or striker; releases the firing pin safety, and; releases the hammer or striker.
 
MythBuster said:
Perhaps you could explain how your simple definition shows us the
M&P is DAO
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I stated my definition with post #40. By that criteria it's DAO.

Multiple entities with significantly more credibility than yourself are calling it DAO. Why on earth would anyone change their mind because of the steadfast opinion of someone with no credentials on the Internet?

I'm done replying to you on this topic.
 
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