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I gotta mention the CZ75 Kadet. She'll eat anything and crazy accurate too.

Is the frame on that a standard CZ75 frame? I've been thinking about buying a CZ75 and a Kadet 22 slide, I've shot them a few times.
 
Is the frame on that a standard CZ75 frame? I've been thinking about buying a CZ75 and a Kadet 22 slide, I've shot them a few times.
Yeah, You can buy the Kadet as a conversion or the full pistol. As far as I know the full pistol's frame is the same as the CZ75. The conversion kit will fit most CZ75 pistols including Pre-b models (non-short-rail) and the P-01 / PCR. I've got mine on a 1992 transitional model.
 
Yeah I knew the Kadet conversion fit most, I was just curious to see if the Kadet pistol was a real frame. I know I'll shoot it far more often if I buy the Kadet first and maybe try to find a 9mm slide later.
 
Yeah I knew the Kadet conversion fit most, I was just curious to see if the Kadet pistol was a real frame. I know I'll shoot it far more often if I buy the Kadet first and maybe try to find a 9mm slide later.
While the frame is all steel like it's 9mm counterpart, I don't believe that CZ sells the 9mm upper separately like Sig does. If they do, I've never seen it.
 
Coming back for an update. Forgot to mention that I've got a Walther P22 which is only 100% with CCI Mini-Mags. I've also shot a Beretta Neos and enjoyed it, too. The mag release on the Neos is probably the best of the bunch (especially if you are right handed), but I still prefer the Buckmark.

I want to really like the P22, but it's spotty record with ammo qualifies my like for it. I hear, though, that if you put a target barrel on it, it will function with almost any ammo.
 
Coming back for an update. Forgot to mention that I've got a Walther P22 which is only 100% with CCI Mini-Mags. I've also shot a Beretta Neos and enjoyed it, too. The mag release on the Neos is probably the best of the bunch (especially if you are right handed), but I still prefer the Buckmark.

I want to really like the P22, but it's spotty record with ammo qualifies my like for it. I hear, though, that if you put a target barrel on it, it will function with almost any ammo.
Hmm. Maybe you should check out the P22 bible. Its a nice resource for reliability mods to the P22. Check it out if you haven't already. Here's a link:
http://www.freespeech.com/1917-1911M_P22_bible.pdf
 
If you want warm and fuzzy, ditch the plastic and get yourself a true classic! I've shot a lot of different .22 pistols and nothing compares to the quality of a Hamden High Standard Victor or Trophy.

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ether a ruger (mkIII22/45 or standard mkIII) or browning buckmark.
both are excellent


I did alot of research on the topic before I bought one, I went with the ruger 5.5 inch mkIII 22/45 eats everything.

I recently added full volquartsen internals (mkII parts inside a MKIII)and its amazing. of all my handguns this lowly 22 is the most fun to shoot.
 
If you find the p22 and such too small for you that will likely cut out things like older high standards, woodsman, mkII rugers, neos....all of these are pretty thin...some can be changed with different grips and such, but by nature they are pretty thin in the grip area.

I would look at the S&W offerings....the 41 like talked about above is a fantastic pistol...but you will pay close to $1k for the gun. Their other "target" models are around $500 or so....give or take and are fatter in the grip area and you may like that. The newer brownings might fit the bill...they seem to fall in the middle as far as "fatness" on the grip goes.

I was just down this road after wanting a 41 for quite a few years....finally had the money to start looking for one...after I found it I did not care for it as I have very small hands.

I know you are not looking for a 1911 style gun but if you change your mind look at the sig 1911, or GSG (same gun) they are very nice and I have been happy with mine.
 
Scary accurate. Got bored sending rounds through the same hole, so took aim at the push pins holding the corners of the target. 4 shots & 4 splattered push pins.

Love my MKII

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If you want warm and fuzzy, ditch the plastic and get yourself a true classic! I've shot a lot of different .22 pistols and nothing compares to the quality of a Hamden High Standard Victor or Trophy.

AMEN!!

The Victor is the best of the best!

DM
 
It will be hard for you to beat the Ruger mark III 22/45. The modifications are easy and cheap to do. I have had mine for a couple of months now and it is great. Mine has the replaceable grip panels and I got it for $280.00 at a gunshow. You will have a blast with what ever you pick, just send us some pics when that happens.

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There are plenty of good ones out there, many of them already mentioned here. A couple to consider: the Walther PP series in .22, which is a fabulous handgun, though pricy these days; and an original Whitney Wolverine, the original space ray gun. Both are wonderful shooters, reliable and accurate.
 
I'm in the same boat right now. I've shot my dads Mark II and it's a great pistol, but I'm having a hard time warming up to it for some reason.

A friend of his brought his 22A and while it felt great in my hand and shot very nice it had almost a 45% failure to fire. Almost every other round wouldn't fire.

I could take the same round and put it back in the top of the magazine and it would fire. The FTF was almost like light strikes. The owner said it might be because he hasn't cleaned it.

I was shooting Remington Golden Bullets from a bulk pack. The Mark II ate them all day.
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What ammo would work well and be inexpensive ?
 
.22 semi-autos are notoriously fussy about their ammo.

For my Mark III a box of golden bullets is a great way to practice malfunction drills but the Winchester and American Eagle run beautifully.

Just keep trying brands until you find the one your gun likes. And be philosophical about the value of practicing malfunction drills. :D
 
Doxiedad,

Remington Golden Bullets are notorious for being sub-par .22LR ammo..

Try some Federal Bulk pack, Federal Auto Match, or CCI Stingers instead. ;)
 
So..you want accurate?

Might as well start at the top. The Pardini SP and the FWB AW93 are the top-flight guns that the international competitors use. I would also include Matchguns and Morini in here, but you'll never find there guns stateside, so no need to worry about them.

Below that, you have the S&W Model 41, the Benelli MP-90/95, the IZH-35m, and the walther ssp/gsp-expert and hammerli 208. Also on this shelf would be the Marvel Unit 1 1911 conversion, which isn't a complete gun. I'd also put some of the high standards here.

On the next shelf down we have the Ruger MK-series and the Browning buckmark.

Finally we wrap up with all the rest, the 22lr 1911 look-alikes, the 'tactical' 22's, etc.

You can shoot very high bullseye scores with a buckmark or a ruger. I went with this and a Ruger MKIII tricked out with VQ parts.

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Sad truth is that the .22s that 'look cool' (resemble centerfire pistols, to be more specific) don't tend to work very well.

I'm also going to recommend a Ruger. I like the 22/45 series over the MkIII, but that's just me. I think the Browning Buckmarks are nice too, I just don't think they're really worth the extra $$$ over the Ruger.

If you DO get a Ruger, I also highly recommend the Majestic Arms speed strip kit, makes the Ruger much easier to clean than it is from the factory.
 
Sad truth is that the .22s that 'look cool' (resemble centerfire pistols, to be more specific) don't tend to work very well.


While I may agree with you on the Walther P22, and Sig Mosquito, the CZ Kadet (and Kadet Kit conversion unit) is a stellar .22 pistol. I've had a Kadet Kit used on my 75B, and PCR for over 12 years and it has been great. It is darn accurate too, right up there with my Ruger MK II Target.

The Ruger SR22 from all accounts, is also a winner.
 
If you want a .22 with a 4-inch barrel, look for a Browning Buck Mark Micro. The shorter barrel handles very well.
 
toivo, tell us more about your Bersa .22. I've been interested in one, but haven't seen one in a shop. I wouldn't expect superior accuracy from one, but I expect it would be a fun shooter nonetheless. Are they reliable? Thanks!
 
It's tough to top the Ruger Mark series or the Browning Buck Mark series .22 pistols, especially for the money. If you can land a Colt Woodsman or Challenger for a decent price, and they are around, they make terrific plinkers as well. A Whitney Wolverine (the original) is a great .22 to shoot and fun to look at, too; it's the original space ray gun. Best of all, in my view: the Walther PP series. But these can set you back some serious change.
 
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