The old Steyr m95

These are the ones that use enbloc clips right?

I wouldn't say $180 is steep for any rifle. If the Soviets hadn't flooded the market with them I'd have said that's even a reasonable price for a Mosin-Nagant given its quality and workmanship. As for a better deal, Allan's Armory occasionally has them pop up and he generally sells them for $130-$150 a pop. JG has them going for $140 without the bayonet though; is that a deal breaker to you or something?

http://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php
http://www.jgsales.com/steyr-95-bud...,-no-bayonet,-excellent-condition-p-5795.html

I know that Simpson LTD has some less-than-exemplary models going for a little under $180;

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php...rt=4a&osCsid=6172b7fc39ddd4d9e18d454503d8040a

Otherwise I'm not aware of any other deals. Maybe somebody else has more gun sites bookmarked than I do.

In any case, the 1895 Steyr is actually a very well made and novel rifle. They use an extremely effective and bottom-ejecting en bloc clip and have a neat straight-pull bolt; it seems to me like a bench-shooter's dream milsurp. I like en bloc clips because they're way more effective and quicker to load than stripper clips, and yet decidedly more compact than magazines. Its action is also very unique amongst almost all of Europe's rifles, and it's a pretty short rifle. I'd like to carry one around in the woods with me.

I plan to buy one one of these days and drill through the bolt handle to thread in something to make its grip more similar to a K31's.

Thank you Phaethon, I thought that is the one. For the OP remember if you cant get the clips this is a single shot rifle.

I bought the carbine with a load of free, German made, ammo for $100.00. The condition of the firearm was VG+. When I went to the range to try it out I found out why it was for sale. That was the hardest kicking rifle I have ever shot. Kicked harder than a shotgun loaded with Magnum buck shot. I traded it a week later. He He He, the new owner called me to tell me that it kicked to beat hell. All I could say was....."YUP."

Just my opinion, but the 8x56R is a fairly lacklustre cartridge to go jumping through hoops for. In addition to having to find clips, reloading for 8x56 is no great deal. PPU has brass but that's a .329 bore. Unless I am very much mistaken, there's not much out there. You'll have an FMJ BT (PPU gets them somewhere) and maybe 1 or 2 soft points? Anyway, add $100 bucks in dies and brass plus whatever Steyr clips will run... While the straight pull bolt is cool, I seem to recall that the rifle was known for extraction issues.

In any event, I'd put the Swedish Mauser and the K31, among other, ahead of the M95 on my list.

Classic arms has them listed for 159.

For what it's worth I bought mine a few months ago from J&G for $140 without the bayonet. It's a neat rifle (I haven't found the kick as bad as others have mentioned but it's certainly up there with high power, bolt action battle rifles). It's certainly a compact package and quite light so I often take mine when I'm planning to camp for a few days but don't plan to do a lot of shooting and and don't want to carry something heavy/bulky. Ammo is a problem...ie it's going to be an expensive proposition so you won't get to shoot it as much as many milsurps. Unless you have a particular interest in them, you might want to pass and get something else (you can find Mosin-Nagant M44s for around $180 which are about the same size but much cheaper to shoot). I got mine as I had a Hungarian relative in the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1.

So all in all, if you really want one, J&G had some of the cheaper prices (unless you also have a C&R in which case you should look into Southern Ohio Gun), but you should definitely do an assessment about ammo costs etc if you plan to shoot it much.

I have one that I did horse trading for and I love it. The biggest thing is to hand to someone and watch them try to open the bolt on it. Shells for it 8x56R can be had for around $12.00 for 20, and I have seen a few places that carry the clips for it. Your question is about value ??? It all depends on what you want to do with it, mine is being put aside for my grandson who is 11 and by the time he is 21 he should have a small fortune built up or a nice collection of things that others can't find. I have had a problem locating a bayonet for this one.
Here is a link to Odd and different type rounds, never know this guy might have one of anything. http://www.mrnambu.com/

is there a cheaper source for them?

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1980. They have them for seventy five bucks. Getting there can be a problem, though.

SOG (http://www.southernohiogun.com) has M95/34s listed for $129.95 and Hungarian M95s listed for $119.95.

Too bad that I'm not old enough for a C&R... Thanks for the help.

I know of a few sources for clips so that was never a problem in my mind. However, it does seems as though feeding this rifle would be a bit of a pain.

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I would pass on it if you're thinking of this as a first milsurp rifle, because it will be expensive to shoot. I enjoy mine, but I have several otehr milsurp bolt actions that I fire much more frequently with much less cost to my wallet.

I bought mine for 250 two years ago locally. Dont think it was a bad deal, but I did have the advantage of holding it first...

The rifle isn't really that expensive to feed. I don't understand all the complaints; ammo cost is pretty typical. The only thing going against it is the fact that Mosin-Nagant ammo and Yugo surplus 8mm is so wondrously cheap - otherwise feeding a K31, Swedish Mauser, or Lee-Enfield are just as or even more expensive.

Here's my M95. Came from J&G about 2 years ago for $89.95. I guess they have gone up.






Here's something I did not long ago.


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Feedi...man's+solution+for+cheap+8x56R...-a0243718821

M95 Steyr in 30-40

Check out this link for a M95 Steyr that has been rebarreled.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=37235&highlight=M95+Steyr

It's tempting to have something this different and be much more usable. All it takes is money!

Check back on JG Sales. They just reduced the price on the non-bayonet rifles to 99$, and the rifles with matching bayonet are 150$.

gunner69 said:

I bought the carbine with a load of free, German made, ammo for $100.00. The condition of the firearm was VG+. When I went to the range to try it out I found out why it was for sale. That was the hardest kicking rifle I have ever shot. Kicked harder than a shotgun loaded with Magnum buck shot. I traded it a week later. He He He, the new owner called me to tell me that it kicked to beat hell. All I could say was....."YUP."

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Shooting that Nazi 1938 ammo in those things sure does kick hard!

Believe due to the age of the ammo, the glycerin must have separated. Choron'd them (set at 15') and yielded an average of 3015 fps! They are supposed to be around 2400 fps. That is almost 4100 lbs of energy! I think the Germans were trying to injure the Austrians!

I have two loads for mine, one using .338 cast (Lee) sized to .331 with gas check and 25 grains of H4198. Yields 1650 fps with that 214 gr bullet. Still capable of using it for hunting as this formula develops a tad over 1100 lbs of energy @ 100m. Very little kick.

Second one utilizes the Hornady 205 gr SP (.330) and 43 grains of H4895, this yields a little over 2300 fps (@15') and over 2100 lbs of energy @ 100m. About the same amount of kick as a .30-06 180gr out of a Remington BDL.

Bought five of them a couple of years ago from Century Arms, $59 each.

How much do those things kick using some modern manufactured Partizan ammo? At that price I'm strongly considering picking up a rifle myself. And where'd you get a die that sizes to .331? I was under the impression that most out there will only size it to .329.

^ the prvi ammo is no worse than a mosin with 7.62 mil loads

Phaethon said:

How much do those things kick using some modern manufactured Partizan ammo? At that price I'm strongly considering picking up a rifle myself. And where'd you get a die that sizes to .331? I was under the impression that most out there will only size it to .329.

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Honed out a Lee .329 sizing die....took about five minutes with emery cloth, cutting oil, mandrel, and drill.