wristtwister
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Accurizing the Mosin Nagant Rifle: A How-To Guide to Bringing Out The Accuracy of You
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LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Very nice, I like that way that turned out. It's pretty need, and I assume that the barrel has been to Teludyne Tech?
caribou
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Beautifull work on that Mosin!!
Im not a muzzel brake kinda guy, but the other 99% is AWSOME!!
You throwing heavy slugs really far?? I would .......
Im not a muzzel brake kinda guy, but the other 99% is AWSOME!!
You throwing heavy slugs really far?? I would .......
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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I would be, too!
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FenderTK421
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Best way to get better accuracy for under $300... buy a Mauser 
OooWee!
I shot my "before" last night. 5 shot group from 50 measured meters (I am having some really weird eye problems...) and was pleasantly suprised to say the least. Sorry but I am gonna have to describe it instead of post it. I can't post pics from here...
1 1/2 inches top to bottom. and only 3/8s side to side. The thing is there is one hole with 3 rounds and the other two shots directly above that. I may have a good one here...
I am gonna definitely post the before and after pics and some accurizing pics too but it will be a few weeks. I have family coming for a visit.
Thanks for everything, especially the feedback on the trigger. The looseness didn't bother me at all so I will probably leave that alone, at least at first. I am just not a trigger guy, I guess.
I'll be back.
I shot my "before" last night. 5 shot group from 50 measured meters (I am having some really weird eye problems...) and was pleasantly suprised to say the least. Sorry but I am gonna have to describe it instead of post it. I can't post pics from here...
1 1/2 inches top to bottom. and only 3/8s side to side. The thing is there is one hole with 3 rounds and the other two shots directly above that. I may have a good one here...
I am gonna definitely post the before and after pics and some accurizing pics too but it will be a few weeks. I have family coming for a visit.
Thanks for everything, especially the feedback on the trigger. The looseness didn't bother me at all so I will probably leave that alone, at least at first. I am just not a trigger guy, I guess.
I'll be back.
TurtlePhish
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That's one good barrel, and great shooting. Cork it and I bet it tightens up the top to bottom spread.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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That isn't bad at all. But with a lighter trigger pull and a corked stock that could help squeeze the groups even tighter. Plus side is, both mods are easy enough to do.
wristtwister
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Yeah... that gun started out as a joke. I bought the gun and left it standing against the door at TTI. As I walked out, I said "we ought to do a project with that Mosin"... when I came back the next day, Al had cut 9 inches off the barrel and put on a straightjacket.
I thought the wood on it was too good to chop up to accomodate the tube diameter of the bull barrel, so Mark (who had some wood at home) said, "no worries... we'll make a stock for it. We cut out the bench stock and kept certain features of the Mosin so you could recognize it as one.
Once we had gotten that far, I said "I'd like to mount a scope... and not a scout scope, but a "real" scope... " so we moved the bolt behind the action, and put a scope bridge over the action so I could mount optics.
When I shot the gun a few times, I decided to smoothe out the trigger, so I flattened a .45 case into a brass plate and slipped it up under the trigger to make it act like a single-stage trigger.
It was fun to do, and took three of us working about 30 hours over a weekend to create the first "Mosin Olympic" made onsite at TTI. After finishing it, I mounted one of those really expensive $95 6x24x50 Field and Stream scopes from Dick's sporting goods on it, and took it shooting.
Using commie copper wash ammo, it shot about 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards. Using Silver bear, they tightened up to 1" using 203 grain @ 100, but stayed consistent at 300 using 174 grain Silver Bear ammo. Using my "home cooking", it's shoots dime groups at 100 with no trouble, which is under 1MOA... the best group so far was a 3 shot group shot when the range was closing, and I had already pumped 100 rounds through the gun in an hour... I can cover it with a dime...
I thought the wood on it was too good to chop up to accomodate the tube diameter of the bull barrel, so Mark (who had some wood at home) said, "no worries... we'll make a stock for it. We cut out the bench stock and kept certain features of the Mosin so you could recognize it as one.
Once we had gotten that far, I said "I'd like to mount a scope... and not a scout scope, but a "real" scope... " so we moved the bolt behind the action, and put a scope bridge over the action so I could mount optics.
When I shot the gun a few times, I decided to smoothe out the trigger, so I flattened a .45 case into a brass plate and slipped it up under the trigger to make it act like a single-stage trigger.
It was fun to do, and took three of us working about 30 hours over a weekend to create the first "Mosin Olympic" made onsite at TTI. After finishing it, I mounted one of those really expensive $95 6x24x50 Field and Stream scopes from Dick's sporting goods on it, and took it shooting.
Using commie copper wash ammo, it shot about 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards. Using Silver bear, they tightened up to 1" using 203 grain @ 100, but stayed consistent at 300 using 174 grain Silver Bear ammo. Using my "home cooking", it's shoots dime groups at 100 with no trouble, which is under 1MOA... the best group so far was a 3 shot group shot when the range was closing, and I had already pumped 100 rounds through the gun in an hour... I can cover it with a dime...
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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I just wanted to share with y'all something I did for a friend today. He just picked up a Mosin not too long ago, a '43 Izzy 91/30 (looks BEAUTIFUL under all that shellac, but don't worry, he's gonna have me refinish it the way I did mine, he thought mine was beautiful). He's satisfied with the rifle, but didn't care for the heavy trigger.
So, as you could probably surmise, I did the trigger-job that I posted earlier in this thread, and if you could have seen his face when he tried it out, you would have laughed. He loved it. Raved about it. He's going to go and shoot it now to see how well it does for his grouping, but I just thought I'd share. I'm probably going to end up doing two more jobs on his friends M44 and 91/30, so...
So, as you could probably surmise, I did the trigger-job that I posted earlier in this thread, and if you could have seen his face when he tried it out, you would have laughed. He loved it. Raved about it. He's going to go and shoot it now to see how well it does for his grouping, but I just thought I'd share. I'm probably going to end up doing two more jobs on his friends M44 and 91/30, so...
meanmrmustard
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This should really be a sticky.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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I would like it to be, but it's at Moderator's discretion.
Clark
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When most people talk about trigger jobs, they talk about:
1) take up
2) force to release
3) over travel
Unless it is a target trigger, I leave the first and last alone.
In the case of the Mosin Nagant, I think there are two prudent ways to go:
1) Bend the sear to reduce the force to release is as low as possible and still have consistent sear - cocking piece full engagement. This should result in ~ 2.5 pounds force to release.
2) Pay $100 and get a Timney with a built in safety.
Adjust per my drawing to 1.5 pounds force to release.
My 26 second video about that trigger.
1) take up
2) force to release
3) over travel
Unless it is a target trigger, I leave the first and last alone.
In the case of the Mosin Nagant, I think there are two prudent ways to go:
1) Bend the sear to reduce the force to release is as low as possible and still have consistent sear - cocking piece full engagement. This should result in ~ 2.5 pounds force to release.
2) Pay $100 and get a Timney with a built in safety.
Adjust per my drawing to 1.5 pounds force to release.
My 26 second video about that trigger.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Simple trigger that does what it's supposed to for materials laying around the house. Yes, if I could afford a Timney just to throw at the rifle, I'd probably put one on, but I can't see myself spending so much when I can get similar results, minus safety, for so much cheaper.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Many thanks, Taliv. I'll be looking for some more little tricks, and see if I can come up with some more of my own.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Also, I may have forgotten to add, that in doing this little return-spring mod, I managed to have a good way to retain that pesky trigger pin, meaning, if done properly, no more need to worry about losing this pin.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Will do. There's so much info on the internet, I've been having issues finding more new stuff to add. I think it may be necessary to reach into the "Custom" realm, as well.
Welding Rod
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I was shooting my CMP Special Garand in a match last weekend and got beat by one point by a guy shooting a Mosin. I scored 292/300 v. his 293/300.
He said he paid $50 bucks for the Mosin.
He said he paid $50 bucks for the Mosin.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Very nice! Though sorry you lost, guy.
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meanmrmustard
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Bummer. If its any consolation, he beat you only by a point. He was probably sweating bullets...pun intended.
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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Especially if he knew the spread before his last round.
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Lj-mosinfreak-buck - great trigger job piece and awesome article! I just polished the sear and trigger surfaces you recommend and that took and 8 lb pull to 5 lb and I can definitely get it better! Thanks again for the great info!!!
LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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You're welcome, good sir! The point of this thread is easy to do modifications that are very cost effective. I take it, along with the polishing, you did the spring and shim, as well?
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