Cz75B pro's and Con's ?

Forumsurfer, what kind of compact do you have?

I don't like any gun that doesn't have a decocker. The idea of lowering the hammer on a live round so the gun can be carried in Double Action doesn't appeal to me.

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The 75B has the firing pin block, an easily controlled hammer, and it can be lowered to half-cock (which is the preferred carry method as I understand). It's very safe. Besides, you could always carry it cocked-and-locked.

Hate that firing pin roll pin!

The CZ75B is not as "small hand friendly" as your 1911. The reach to the trigger in DA is pretty long, and the reach to the thumb safety in SA is also longer than the thumb safety on a 1911.

Yes that particular member and the author of the thread in the OP are consistently negative on the cZ but never back up their statements with facts. In thirty years of shooting cZs, I have never had a breakage and the only problems encountered have been attributable to the shooter. The triggers on some of my cZs have been a bit rough when the pistol was new, but have smoothed out quickly by shooting.

I have run a 75BD in a couple of matches plus personal use and have not had a malfunction in over 2000 rounds. I also use a P01 for concealed carry for almost 8 years now and never had a problem with it either. I have had fewer problems with CZs than any other brands of handguns I have ever owned, including both Glock and the M&P. I just bought a Shadow for USPSA and don't anticipate any problems with it either.

The obligatory pics

75 Compact

75 BD

Do an internet search of all the gun forums and you will find more posts about CZ problems than any other brand. Quite an accomplishment considering how few they sell.

The results I got from that search were mostly 1911s.

I have the 75bd and it's one of my favorites.
Good stuff.

Nice looking pics bikerdoc and fatdaddy.

I think jmr40 just cuts and pastes his responses these days. They are as familiar as paragraphs in Ambrose books.

I own CZ's of every flavor and don't have problems with any of them. I have owned numerous SIG's (220 & 225) and they were reliable, but no more so than a CZ. Ditto for several other brands.

The only pistols I have known that were consistently unreliable were AMT's.

My cz75b is the most accurate 9mm I've fired, has never failed with reloads or commercial. I believe I paid $329 new, a few years back,wish I had purchased 2, also have a CZ40B super accurate and an easy 40cal to shoot, has the feel of a 1911. If you like Browning pistols you'll like the CZ75B.

You people are making me sick with your CZ ownership. Sick to the stomach that I sold mine and bought another pistol.

My only complaint about CZ pistols is that the one I want isn't in stock anywhere that I've looked. Please, CZ, please send another batch of your wonderfully underpriced pistols to a gunshop near me...

My only complaint about CZ pistols is that the one I want isn't in stock anywhere that I've looked.

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I know the feeling.
I just want a vanilla 75B but everywhere I look has 85Bs or one or more of the other variants. The kicker is that when I DO find one I can't even afford to put it on layaway and when I have enough cash it's already gone, so it gets bumped down the list in favor of something else I've been waiting to buy.

Ah, jmr40, what would a CZ thread be like without him, be like a picnic without an ant, unthinkable.
In my personal experience, CZ has been durable, reliable and accurate, and I haven't experienced any breakages that I can remember...with over 10 CZ pistols through here. ONLY CZ made pistol I wouldn't buy again is the CZ 100, and it's no longer stocked.

I bet my life and my families lives on a CZ pistol every day of the week.

Did someone say pictures?



Wifes' P-01, can you tell?


Buy the book at cz-usa.com.



My P-01 at the range.



My P-01 and wife's CZ 2075 RAMI.





Yeah, we like CZ.

Pros:
Great grip (feel)
Very accurate
Limited recoil (steel guns)
Nice trigger (once broken in or w/ trigger work)

Cons:
Finish wear
Mags are more expensive
Parts are more expensive
Requires punch to detail strip
More complex design with lots of small parts
Limited sight options
Slide harder to grab given design

I think the CZ 75B or SP-01 is one of the best range blaster 9mms bar none. The Custom Shop guns have trigger work second to none. I think there are better options for other purposes.

Sounds like jmr40 has an ax to grind.

I love my CZ's, thousands of rounds down range with 0 issues. I will be buying more.

About the most common CZ negativity I see on the net is him complaining all the time.

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LOL

I've had my CZ75B for a week after wanting one for years.
Here are a few of my random thoughts so far:
Fit and finish is excellent, amazing when you consider the $442.99 price tag.
I was shooting it as well as my PPQ in my 2nd range session and the PPQ (that I sold) is probably the most accurate out of the box gun (for me) I've bought.

A big complaint with the CZ is the trigger. (people complain about triggers a lot on the internet)
My advice as a new owner whose listened for a long time on how bad the trigger is out of the box is to plan on doing nothing until you've bought the gun and shot it several times. If you are familiar with the Beretta 92FS or not, a popular upgrade to do is replace the the factory 20 lb mainspring with the "D" model 18 lb spring. I did that to my 18 year old 92FS + installed the Elite II skeletonized hammer. MY CZ 75B had a better DA trigger out of the box than my Beretta with these changes. The Beretta has a lighter SA pull and slightly less creep but the holes on my CZ targets prove this doesn't mean a whole lot. I plan on doing nothing to my CZ trigger or really anything to my gun except maybe a set of new grips. (even the factory plastic ones are really not bad at all)

I would buy the gun, it may just be a revelation for you. Worst case you can probably sell it for what you have into it. Search Armslist for a CZ75. There are only handful available in the entire country and the WTB posts outnumber those by at least a 3 to 1 margin.

I bought the P-01 and like it after a trigger Job I love it,It has replaced my G19 for daily carry(still keep the 19) as it has been a verry good pistol.
Bought the CZ75B replaced the trigger with a shorter reach and did a trigger job and it has become my favorite 9 mm for range and IDPA,after 3 seasons of Glock I made expert on my first classifier with it.Great pistol.

dom1104 said:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/3218

This is an interesting article, with even more interesting comments re: the pros / cons of CZ75s.

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Interesting thing if you read the comments...

Todd you forgot Mikes Glock 22 that had numerous stoppages and needed a new slide stop and slide stop spring. Plus Petes Glock 22 that had those mags that would not drop free. Though to be fair those were dedicated training mags and had seen tens of thousands of rounds through them and were swollen just a bit.
Then there was RH’s Glock (23 or Gen 4 22?) that he managed to get his finger stuck under the trigger. I still have no idea how that happened.

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So, just as many Glocks failed as CZs... and one of the CZ failures was because the user hadn't replaced the extractor spring after 14,000 rounds...

I would like to see a list of all guns that failed during the class.
More importantly I would like to know exactly what magazines were used in the CZ's.
People seem to be obsessed with buying magazines that have re-designed followers that add capacity thinking if the magazine holds more and is flush it must be better.
I would like to see the results with those CZ's and factory/OEM traditional capacity magazines and not 18 rounds jammed into a 16 round tube even if it's OEM for example.

Reading further into the comments, apparently some of the problem CZs were running 17 round Tangfolio magazines that had been pinned to limit them to 10 rounds.

More than one of the CZs were running hand loads, not factory ammo.

The guns apparently were two CZ-75 SP-01 Shadows and a CZ-85


So, no surprises. Running handload ammo through substandard mags = failures. Duh. Not a CZ issue.

Mine managed to run splendedly.

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?9-2-000-Round-Challenge&p=66461&viewfull=1#post66461

The CZ75 was state of the art for mid 70s but the design is bit long in the tooth by now being too heavy for 9x19 duty pistol. While SIG 226 is better choice it is overpriced for what one gets. Equally capable alloy framed Gen 3 Smith & Wesson in excellent condition can be bought for about half the money.

If you are fussy about triggers, a trigger job for the standard 75b (after you shoot it some) or buy the SAO 75b. The trigger on mine has a long take up, other than that it's fine for a range gun. Mine is accurate and reliable, I've had it about nine years. It educated me to the brand. I now have many other CZ/Brno handguns and rifles. Find a Kadet conversion kit for yours and you'll be all set.