What can be more fun than some good old fashioned Cowboy wheelgun shooting? I sure had a good time with the Ruger New Vaquero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3VNjajWLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3VNjajWLQ
Ruger New Vaquero
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Andy-Y
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Looks fun! I just bought my first single action (super blackhawk), and I have been bitten by the SA bug!
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Not much!!!
wheelyfun66
Member
Super fun!
Just got back from the range after beginning to break in my new Vaquero Birdshead in 45ACP!
Super accurate, compact, fun to shoot, and a caliber that I can easily afford ammo for....
Alot of people look down upon carrying a single action for self-defense....
but in my D.M. Bullard Bodyguard holster...that is exactly what I will be doing!
Not the best choice, I know...but a solid choice for me.
Just got back from the range after beginning to break in my new Vaquero Birdshead in 45ACP!
Super accurate, compact, fun to shoot, and a caliber that I can easily afford ammo for....
Alot of people look down upon carrying a single action for self-defense....
but in my D.M. Bullard Bodyguard holster...that is exactly what I will be doing!
Not the best choice, I know...but a solid choice for me.
Lawdawg45
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CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Uh, what???
ArchAngelCD
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There is something more fun, that's adding a levergun in the same caliber to the range trip!
wheelyfun66
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Thanks man....that means alot, coming from you..
after all...a man with a Youtube channel and lots of guns must know.....alot?
(just kidding...some people carry only a knife or less, depending on laws where they are located, but that works for them. A single action revolver in a modern caliber is effective. As effective as a Gen4 G26? NO. I understand the limitations of the weapon, and make my choice based upon what works for me.)
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Lawdawg45
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You have a right to your opinion, but that was a little harsh. You do realize that many of the iconic gunfighters (Skeeter Skelton, Bill Jordan, Sheriff Jim Wilson, etc) all have carried a SA, and that the world famous Gunsite Academy still has a course on SA combat pistols? Many people who compete in SASS and/or NCOWS shoot thousands of rounds each year and feel quite comfortable with a SA, compared to the weekend range warriors and tactards (Sheriff Wilson's label). BTW that "Little hatch" is called the loading gate.
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Lawdawg45
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Yep, I'm pretty confident in my 300 grain JHP moving at 1500 fps from Buffalo Bore.
LD
Sorry, my response to the guy who told us he uses a SA revolver as his concealed carry weapon was too harsh.
I do think it is highly unwise to limit yourself to a SA revolver if you are using it as your concealed EDC weapon.
But, to each his own. As always, YMMV.
I do think it is highly unwise to limit yourself to a SA revolver if you are using it as your concealed EDC weapon.
But, to each his own. As always, YMMV.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Which is more wise, to use the firearm you are most intimately familiar and proficient with....or to choose a more socially acceptable platform that you are not as proficient with??? I shoot SA's all the time, almost daily and they are my primary focus and passion. I have absolutely no interest in spending as much time with combat tupperware.
And if you want to get personal, if I loaded as slowly as you do or shifted my grip between every shot, I probably wouldn't carry one either.
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Lawdawg45
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Thank you sir! Evaluations are often relative and compared to people who choose a .22LR or Derringer, the person with the .45 SA loaded for bear will stop the fight in short order. Surprisingly the SA can be reloaded fairly quick with the proper training, which is what is taught at Gunsite.
LD
"to choose a more socially acceptable platform"
My point has nothing to do with being "socially" acceptable. Heck, in our society there are a lot of people who regard any gun ownership to be unacceptabe, period.
Nor was my comment made out of any desire, on my part, to be "tacticool."
My decision on what to carry was made based on: (a) what I can legally carry in my state, etc.; (b) what I can carry based on what I have to wear, by way of clothing; (c) What would give me the greatest number of rounds, in as compact a package as possible.
If people want to carry a six shot single action pistol for self-defense, I do not regard that as a wise decision. Others might.
Back in the day when everyone's pistol was a six shooter, it of course was the only choice.
I feel there are much more effective self-defense firearms.
As always, FWIW, YMMV.
My point has nothing to do with being "socially" acceptable. Heck, in our society there are a lot of people who regard any gun ownership to be unacceptabe, period.
Nor was my comment made out of any desire, on my part, to be "tacticool."
My decision on what to carry was made based on: (a) what I can legally carry in my state, etc.; (b) what I can carry based on what I have to wear, by way of clothing; (c) What would give me the greatest number of rounds, in as compact a package as possible.
If people want to carry a six shot single action pistol for self-defense, I do not regard that as a wise decision. Others might.
Back in the day when everyone's pistol was a six shooter, it of course was the only choice.
I feel there are much more effective self-defense firearms.
As always, FWIW, YMMV.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about YOU. Sorry but when you refer to someone's choice as "incredibly stupid", you will get called on it. What IS "incredibly stupid" is to unnecessarily limit yourself to what internet experts regard as acceptable. What IS "incredibly stupid" is to use a firearm that you are less than familiar with because 'some' think it's a more appropriate tool.
Then YOU should carry them. What's best for you may not necessarily be best for all. Like I said, if I was as inept with a single action as you are, I wouldn't carry one either. But I shoot them almost daily, reload with haste and work on building skill almost constantly. Proficiency trumps platform and I'll choose a platform I'm the most intimately familiar and proficient with over anything less every time.
Bottom line is that nothing is faster from leather to the first shot and for the first five-six shots, a man proficient with a single action gives up nothing to a shooter with anything else. Like I said in the carry thread, some of us use these guns constantly and are more comfortable with them than anything else. IMHO, it would be "incredibly stupid" to rely on anything else. Because in a gunfight, you rely on muscle memory and familiarity. When you don't have time to think and need to simply react instantly and instinctively, a stranger on your hip is not the right tool for the job. Whatever 'perceived' advantage it held while spraying bullets at the range goes right out the window.
Leatherman-Cowboy
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There is NOTHING like a revolver.Shooting SASS really puts things in perspective.It's amasing how many accurate bullets can be placed down range in the hands of the trained shooter.
Thank you,
Henry
Thank you,
Henry
Craig, guy, cool it. I apologized for my harsh reaction. What else do you want? Public hanging?
I stand by my opinions. I remain absolutely convinced that it is highly unwise to carry a SA revolver as your EDC concealed carry weapon, for the reasons I've stipulated. And, obviously, you would need to train with whatever you carry, but relying on antiquated gun technology to win the day in a gun fight, for the vast majority of people, is ill advised. I just want to get as many rounds on target as possible, in as short a time as possible: and, for the vast majority of people, that ain't going to happen with a six shot single action revolver. I carry a Glock 26 with 13+1 capacity, loaded with Critical Duty, JHP. The pistol has a Crimson trace laser system on it.
You, of course, can carry whatever want, including a bag of hammers.
It's a free country, mostly.
Have a safe Fourth!
I stand by my opinions. I remain absolutely convinced that it is highly unwise to carry a SA revolver as your EDC concealed carry weapon, for the reasons I've stipulated. And, obviously, you would need to train with whatever you carry, but relying on antiquated gun technology to win the day in a gun fight, for the vast majority of people, is ill advised. I just want to get as many rounds on target as possible, in as short a time as possible: and, for the vast majority of people, that ain't going to happen with a six shot single action revolver. I carry a Glock 26 with 13+1 capacity, loaded with Critical Duty, JHP. The pistol has a Crimson trace laser system on it.
You, of course, can carry whatever want, including a bag of hammers.
It's a free country, mostly.
Have a safe Fourth!
The Ruger New Vaquero is one bad a*s pistol IMO. If I did buy a single action revolver this would be the one.
Yes, precisely why I bought it. Got a great price on it, by the way, from of all places, Cabelas. Well, I should quality that. I had two hundred bucks worth of Cabela gift cards, and just happened to go on the day they were having a sale on, yup, New Vaqueros. Didn't even know it until I checked out. Nice surprise, to say the least.
Yes, precisely why I bought it. Got a great price on it, by the way, from of all places, Cabelas. Well, I should quality that. I had two hundred bucks worth of Cabela gift cards, and just happened to go on the day they were having a sale on, yup, New Vaqueros. Didn't even know it until I checked out. Nice surprise, to say the least.
PTMCCAIN, you sure were in the right place at the right time, with the right gift cards. $200.00 off, plus the sale savings. Sweet deal.
I have, and sometimes do, carry an SA. Mostly I carry a Charter Bulldog 44 and a P3AT.
Sometimes just a P3AT. On those days, I'd rather have my .45 SA. But, sometimes, it's about what I can conceal.
I sure wouldn't want to be the crook who made the mistake of trying to rob Bob Munden or his wife. Have you ever seen them perform with an SA?
I have, and sometimes do, carry an SA. Mostly I carry a Charter Bulldog 44 and a P3AT.
Sometimes just a P3AT. On those days, I'd rather have my .45 SA. But, sometimes, it's about what I can conceal.
I sure wouldn't want to be the crook who made the mistake of trying to rob Bob Munden or his wife. Have you ever seen them perform with an SA?
Trad Archer
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I feel totally confident carrying a 4 3/4" Colt SAA. Why? Because I shoot that gun better than any other handgun I own. Plus it never jams up. I have a real hard time with autos. Just don't feel comfortable. The gun I carry most of the time is a Ruger SP101 and even though that is a double action, I realy don't shoot it must faster than my favorite Colt. I've been shooting Colts since I was a kid. They fit my hand and are very pointable. I can empty a cylinder in a flash while still hitting a paper plate 5 times at 7 yards.
I don't understand guys like PTMCCAIN who look down at a single action. If God forbid you ever had to use your gun for self defense, odds are real high that you will need one shot and it will be within spitting distance. You are not going to be involved in some street shootout needing some high capacity tacticool Glock. The only real negative is you can't carry it concealed on 100 degree days like today.
I don't understand guys like PTMCCAIN who look down at a single action. If God forbid you ever had to use your gun for self defense, odds are real high that you will need one shot and it will be within spitting distance. You are not going to be involved in some street shootout needing some high capacity tacticool Glock. The only real negative is you can't carry it concealed on 100 degree days like today.
Leatherman-Cowboy
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Here is a clip of a SA doing his thing.5 shots-hits in under 1 sec.
Thank you,
Henry
http://youtu.be/Z9AJzv8gb2A
Thank you,
Henry
http://youtu.be/Z9AJzv8gb2A
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