Remington 700 caliber ideas? :)

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So I have in my hands a remington 700 barreled long action. As it sits it is chambered for .270. I do not have a bolt assembly, stock, or bottom metal for it... obviously my options are open but my wallet is somewhat thin. I am thinking about either going with a long action .308, 25-06, 30-06, .260, 300win mag (doubtful but an option anyways). It will get used for hunting both hog and deer, also some bench shooting. Any suggestions as to the setup? What caliber would you pick? Any caliber suggestions? I don't reload right now, so ammo needs to be readily available. I already have a couple of .308s, but I don't have a detachable mag fed bolt action.

Any suggestions and ideas would be great

If someone has any spare long action parts to sell, I would likely be interested!
 
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270 seems like it would fit your needs but I'd say for short action 308/7-08 are more available/better suited than 260 for hogs and long action might as well go .30-06.

I'm sure others have better ideas, but what exactly made you decide the 270 wouldn't do the job?
 
I already have a couple of .308s but I don't have a mag Fed bolt action. Would you go mag Fed or top load?

Top loading is magazine fed, it's just an integral magazine. So, I'll assume you meant a detachable magazine.

Anyway, a thin wallet won't get you far with a bare receiver. You'd have less invested in any used M700 chambered for the cartridge of your choosing. I regularly see used 700's in good condition for $400-$500. Just recently saw a very nice 700 BDL C/D 7mm Rem Mag with a Redfield 3-9x for $439 on the used rack at my LGS.
 
270 seems like it would fit your needs but I'd say for short action 308/7-08 are more available/better suited than 260 for hogs and long action might as well go .30-06.

I'm sure others have better ideas, but what exactly made you decide the 270 wouldn't do the job?
I like the .270, dont get me wrong, but I would like a varmint/heavy contour barrel instead of the factory standard contour I have; so I figured I may as well change up the caliber while I am at it.
 
Top loading is magazine fed, it's just an integral magazine. So, I'll assume you meant a detachable magazine.

Anyway, a thin wallet won't get you far with a bare receiver. You'd have less invested in any used M700 chambered for the cartridge of your choosing. I regularly see used 700's in good condition for $400-$500. Just recently saw a very nice 700 BDL C/D 7mm Rem Mag with a Redfield 3-9x for $439 on the used rack at my LGS.
I did mean detachable, I did not choose my wording very well.

When I say I have a thin wallet, im talking about keeping it under the super custom prices, more of a modest setup. I have no problem spending a bit more than the gun is actually worth, knowing I put it together myself. I have absolutely no money into as it sits and I think it would be a fun project.
 
.308

So when you DO get into reloading it's one less set of dies, and components to buy and keep track of. Also it would seem to fit what you need it to, seems to be the best "all around caliber" generally.

Though 300 win mag will 'reach out' a little further (to my limited knowledge) if you really wanted to get into serious long distance work.
 
Maybe I am missing something but something seems incorrect here. You have a long action but mention:

I am thinking about either going with a long action .308, 25-06, 30-06, .260, 300win mag (doubtful but an option anyways).

The .308 is the parent cartridge for the .260 and the 7mm-08. Both of these cartridges are short not long action cartridges.

On a Remington 700 action for short action the receiver screws are spaced 6.5" and long action they are spaced 7.350". So if yo0u have a .270 barreled long action, the long action being correct for the .270 you can't build up a .308, .260 or 7mm-08 on that action. That would be my take.Unless I am missing something here?

Ron
 
Just an open suggestion,

Get over to Brownell's and do some looking. There are a ton of options there to get you started off figuring out how/what you want to put together. There are also several other places which offer custom products built for the Rem 700 action. Just do plenty of searches and you will eventually find just what you want.

As for caliber, The shorter cases in the longer action will work with a blocked magazine. However usually these aren't detachable. Not a real biggie unless it is a deal killer. In most cases your not going to shoot more than 5 rounds anyway and a standard mag on the Rem 700 usually allow 4 easily with '06 based cases with one in the pipe.

Barrels, well there again, it a buyers choice and market. There are several really good makers and a few great ones, just depends on what your final decision is, and if the maker has what you want. Bumping up from the standard 700 tube to something like a Heavy Sporter would be fine without getting the added weight of a full bull barrel. I have a couple built with them and they are nice, not overly heavy, and they balance out real nice. My last build was a 26-06 AI and was built for LR and heavier than normal bullets. I went with a Broughton 5C 4.1 Mag Sporter, 1-9" which finished out at 28". It has worked out VERY well for me and is a breeze to clean up. When your looking you might consider one of the canted land type barrels. DOn't forget twist rates either. IF you go too slow you could give up accuracy with any heavier bullets you might want to shoot later on, if you go too fast, you could bump into your velocity due to getting higher pressures a bit quicker. Usually sticking with the standard twist rates will get you really close, but personally I prefer a 1-10 for 30 cal over the now predominant 1-12 versions. Not that I shoot that much of a heavier bullet, but I haven't found where the 1-10 in the half dozen or so 30 cal rifles I have, has been a downfall.

As for caliber, well if you stick with the parent case of 30-06 for the long action you have plenty of very fine factory type calibers, and several custom chamberings which are also VERY effective. Personally I wouldn't look into the Ackley cases unless your simply building something you REALLY want. Some are great, some not so much, but they are a bit more work to keep fed. I built mine due to I have an abundance of both bullets and cases which I wanted to use up in something and my standard 25 simply wasn't getting what I wanted done. The loads I use burn more powder than the original, but it is also a slower powder behind a heavier bullet with more barrel to burn it in. Simply put I am getting the velocity I wanted and NOT having to push the upper limits of the brass or action mainly from the longer barrel.

That said just a couple off the top of my head I might look into, first might be a 6.5-06 if thinking semi custom or a 280 in either a straight for bullet weights up to around 150grs, or possibly an AI version if looking at shooting the heavier bullets at longer ranges. The 6.5-06 or the 280 AI are mostly a handloading only type proposition to get the best out of what you have built. However with the AI you still have the option of shooting factory rounds initially for barrel break in and hunting, then also having the formed cases for loads. Don't think the standard rounds in the AI chamber can't be accurate, I have several different AI calibers and they will all shoot the factory bullets into 1" or less groups. In fact the one .223AI Contender barrel I have has only had about 100 handloads through it compared to 6-700 factory rounds. I simply quit trying to load for it as the cheap factory stuff shoots so well.

For stocks, well there again it will depend on what you have in your mind. There are some really nice ones out there depending on just what your intended use will be. I picked the HS Precision M24 A1 for my 25-06 as I wanted it to be close to another rifle I already had. I also liked the two swivel studs on the fore end which allow either two different mounting positions for my bi-pod or I can sling it while the pod is in place and not have the added tension applied to the pod itself. I would have gone with the McMillan of similar design, but they were backordered out to around 18 months at the time. No matter the brand or type I do suggest looking at ones with the full aluminum or at the very least pillow blacked types. Then when your ready to put it all together, have your smith skim bed the action into the stock. This will give you the best of both worlds and take out all or most possibilities of anything moving or slipping on down the road.

Lastly, take your time, and pick out the things you will be happy with. Even if it takes you a year or more to gather them all up it will be something your going to like to shoot, and will be what you want when your done. I think it took me around 18 months to finally get all of my pieces together for my 25-06 AI, but I have been VERY pleased with the results from day one. With factory rounds it will easily keep 1" at 200yds, and with the loads I have worked up for it, in calm conditions 1" at 300 is pretty easily done if I am on top of my game. Combine that accuracy with a 120 or 130gr bullet leaving the muzzle between 3250 and 3350fps, and you can see where I could easily have a good time on the hogs, yotes, or anything else I wanted to reach out and touch.

Good luck with your build.
 
Maybe you've got yourself set on a built up rifle. If not, and if you are tight for money, I'd sell the action and buy a used complete rifle. Be WAY cheaper.

I've got a really nice custom .25-06 that needs a barrel. Even with the stock and action on hand, I can't justify putting on a barrel. Thought about making it a 6.5-06 but can't see spending the money.

Mostly depends on how much you can spend, how long you want to take, and what you want when you are done. I have other rifles that can do pretty much what the new one would have been used for.
 
Get the bolt and go with the .270. If your short on money that's a no brainer. If you think you might want to reload have the chamber cut to an Ackley Improved.
 
Maybe I am missing something but something seems incorrect here. You have a long action but mention:



The .308 is the parent cartridge for the .260 and the 7mm-08. Both of these cartridges are short not long action cartridges.

On a Remington 700 action for short action the receiver screws are spaced 6.5" and long action they are spaced 7.350". So if yo0u have a .270 barreled long action, the long action being correct for the .270 you can't build up a .308, .260 or 7mm-08 on that action. That would be my take.Unless I am missing something here?

Ron

You can use many short action rounds in a long action. Some guys do it because they hand load and the short action doesn't give them enough room at time to seat the bullet a little further out of the case. Some guys claim you have feeding issues, others say it works perfectly, others say you have to use a short action spring and follower and block off the rest of the magazine.
 
After pricing out the parts I need, I should be able to get this done for under 600, sans optics. I'm doing ALL of the work myself. No gun Smith involved. It is one of those projects that I don't really mind spending extra cash on because of the knowledge I gain from doing the work.
 
Get the bolt and go with the .270. If your short on money that's a no brainer. If you think you might want to reload have the chamber cut to an Ackley Improved.

Another guy mentioned cutting to an ackley... ill look into it. Even with a new bolt ill likely have to reheadspace it so I might as well slap a new barrel on being I have the old one off.
 
I prefer a short action but if a long action is what I had to work with it would be in my top 3 for what you are doing.
 
You can use many short action rounds in a long action. Some guys do it because they hand load and the short action doesn't give them enough room at time to seat the bullet a little further out of the case. Some guys claim you have feeding issues, others say it works perfectly, others say you have to use a short action spring and follower and block off the rest of the magazine.
Hi Kyle

I was aware of that but just didn't see it as practical. I should have covered using a long action for cartridges like the .308 as you did very nicely.

Thanks
Ron

Saw the 6.5 X 55 mentioned. That is a nice round.

However, looking at cost involved, all things considered, I would likely leave the rifle in .270 and go from there. Considering it is a barreled action.

Ron
 
If I were in your shoes i would consider the 6.5x284 very seriously also the 6.5x55. Both are excellent calibers and would fit your needs well. They will also make use of the long action.
 
I prefer a short action but if a long action is what I had to work with it would be in my top 3 for what you are doing.

Hmm.. Ill definitely do some reading on it. Appreciate your input sir! I'm in no rush on it, just laying out all the possibilities.
 
Hi Kyle

I was aware of that but just didn't see it as practical. I should have covered using a long action for cartridges like the .308 as you did very nicely.

Thanks
Ron

Saw the 6.5 X 55 mentioned. That is a nice round.

However, looking at cost involved, all things considered, I would likely leave the rifle in .270 and go from there. Considering it is a barreled action.

Ron

I see what you mean. The only real reason I would do it in .308 is because it is a caliber I am very comfortable with. Plus ammo is cheap :D

The .270 is a solid round. It isnt completely out of the question. However this morning, upon close inspection, I noticed some pitting in the rifling out towards the crown. Probably wouldn't hurt anything, but I hate to get it put together to find out it is a 3 moa rifle because of the pitting at the crown.
 
Not to get off on a tangent or anything, but if you have other rifles, your wallet is thin and you don't reload, maybe it's a good time to get into reloading.

If you just want another rifle, I'd sell the action and buy a complete rifle. Completing the rifle on a budget of $600 is going to leave you with a custom rifle made up of some pretty cheap parts. I'd consider selling the action and getting into something like a Stevens 200 (I think it is). It's based on a Savage action and is just about a DIY'ers dream.

Oh, if you don't keep the action, I'm thinking .30-06. Ammo is widely available and the round is very versatile.
 
41 Mag:

I appreciate you taking the time to write up your post!

Im not looking for any sort of laser accuracy out of my rifle, I would be most satisfied with a 3/4 moa rifle, so a run of the mill heavy barrel should probably get me there easily. I'm very happy with the 1:10 twist rate on my savage so that will likely be what I stick with if I go for another .30 cal. With my savage I can group about 1" with 145 grain and 1/2" with 168...seems pretty versitile to me! There are way too many choices for someone who wants one of each... haha. I really would like a caliber that causes minimal wear on the barrel for the longest life. I had another guy tell me to go with a 280 or 6.5-06 also. In fact.. A ton of people are recommending some variation of the 6.5. As I keep reading about it, I find that I am becoming more and more drawn that direction. I still keep going back to the 25-06 though... It seems like such an under rated caliber. Your mentioning of the 25-06 just peaked my interest in the ackley's. The 25-06, 6mm and 6.5-06 all seem to be somewhat similar which just makes the decision that much more hard.

As far as the stock goes. I have pretty much decided I am going to go with a Boyd's stock. I put one on my savage (switched from a choate stock) and my groups shrunk substantially and I did not bed the action on it yet. EXTREMELY HAPPY with their product... especially for the price.
 
Not to get off on a tangent or anything, but if you have other rifles, your wallet is thin and you don't reload, maybe it's a good time to get into reloading.

If you just want another rifle, I'd sell the action and buy a complete rifle. Completing the rifle on a budget of $600 is going to leave you with a custom rifle made up of some pretty cheap parts. I'd consider selling the action and getting into something like a Stevens 200 (I think it is). It's based on a Savage action and is just about a DIY'ers dream.

Oh, if you don't keep the action, I'm thinking .30-06. Ammo is widely available and the round is very versatile.

Ill be reloading by the beggining of next year. I am fortunate enough to have a Grandpa who is heavy into reloading and is wanting to get me started in it when he moves out this way.

Oh, I dont know about "cheap parts". used parts, yes. I just built an AR15 for $350. Rock river lower W/ 2 stage match trigger, vltor butt stock. 20" FN barrel hooked to a colt receiver matched with a colt BCG and YHM free float rail. I patiently put it together over about 7 months looking for great condition stuff for even better prices. It is incredible what people sell for dirt nothin just because it is out of the original package.

Youre right about the stevens though. Savage in general are plain awesome for DIY projects. My savage 12 is probably my favorite rifle.

ya'll make all the calibers sound so good.. haha. I do like the 30-06 for the reason of it being cheap and versatile.
 
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