9 MM to be 'new' FBI round

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A little bird whispered in my ear .

That bird was told from a "source" inside the FBI that the new round will be the 9MM in expanding bullet form.

I see that as a good thing with all the new and very real world 9MM rounds made today.

If this is so,how many of you will follow that band wagon ?.

I am already leaning in that direction,higher capacity and easier to control.

I EDC a .40 S&W as well as a .45 acp .

But own 4 9MM's.

Any who would consider changing IF this comes down the pike ?.
 
Fortunately, I don't have guns issued to me and I get to carry what I want to carry. If FBI switches to 9mm, that doens't change what I know about ballistics (and weighing the costs/benefits of various calibers) and wouldn't really factor into my consideration much. Especially because, I have different needs than they do.

I think the better question is, OP, why would you feel the need to switch your carry equipment to match the FBI?

Edit to add:
And by the way, I already do carry a 9mm, while the FBI carries a .40. So, they obviously did not influence my current carry choice.
 
Ha ha ha . I don't think so. Surely the FBI couldn't be so stupid, to not look at their own statistics. No I won't change to match the FBI. I don't now and if they change to a 9mm I'll keep carrying what I've carried for 10+ years.
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As far as I'm concerned, if this is true the FBI is jumping on MY bandwagon :)

I already dumped my only .40S&W carry gun to switch to a 9mm.

I could care less what (insert agency/military unit here) carries. I might pay attention and try to learn from their reasoning, but I won't blindly follow them.
 
The more things change the more they stay the same. I must confess that I have or had dam near every caliber available except the GAP (they didn't get me on that one:rolleyes:).
I must confess to carrying the 9 as my favorite, to me it is the best combination of size, capacity and capability when coupled with good bullets.
 
With today's advanced JHP ammunition, there is very little real world difference between the 9, 40, and 45.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
If I didn't have so much money tied into ammo and mags for my G23, I would dump .40 myself. Not that I have trouble shooting the .40, I don't, I'd just prefer to consolidate my calibers by dumping ones that don't really provide an edge.
 
I prefer magnum calibers for self defense. The FBI faces a lot of different situations than I do. For self defense the chances I will need to shoot further than 20 feet are about .05%. Due to the fact things will be close and personal I prefer the stopping power of the 357/44mag. Due to the versatility of the 9mm it will end up being my SHTF weapon whether I prefer it or not.
 
Now if they were to go back to the .38 Special +P / 158 grain / lead semi-wadcutter / hollow point.... :evil:

Ultimately it boils down to bullet placement more so then particular cartridges, caliber and bullet construction.
 
It's a long walk around the ol' barn. The FBI was the reason behind jumping off the 9mm bandwagon, now they're getting back on. lol
 
Going back to the 9mm. Interesting. The 9mm hollow-point has come a very long way since Miami in 1986. I've been carrying the 9mm for years myself. Guess the F.B.I. is chaning because of me.
 
My 1911 is just heavy and relegated to bedside duty these days. I think my XD40sc is a block, it carries lighter than the 1911 but it's still a block. My .380 LCP carries great shoots great and I love the thing but mention on a gun board you carry a puny .380 full of FMJs...... you see this :banghead:

I firmly believe my next bottom feeder will be slimmest single stack 9 I can find ... short of a Rohrbaugh $$$... and I will fill it with JHPs
 
I don't think so. Surely the FBI couldn't be so stupid, to not look at their own statistics.

Even though many JHP 9mm rounds now meet the FBI requirements that were the reason they went with the .40 in the first place.

Due to the fact things will be close and personal I prefer the stopping power of the 357/44mag.

Stopping power? No such thing. .357 magnum will do the same thing the 9mm will do, create a 9mm crush cavity. Just might bruise a bit more.

OP: Do you have a source you can link, or this just hearsay? Either way, I'm planning on switching from .40 to 9, and have been since before I heard the rumor that the FBI will.
 
This thread true or not seems to be part of a larger phenomena where 40s&w popularity seems to be waining quite dramatically.


Is 40 destined to be the next 38 super?
 
Since you asked

I EDC a G-23 .40 S&W and 2 Kimbers in .45 ACP as primary's.The 9MM's are generally BUG's for me.

But as I age I see that my ability to shoot REALLY accurately might benefit from a change to the 9MM.

It is also possible that if the FBI changes,then bullet science will be advanced even further for the stopping power of the 9MM,and that could be another reason for me to change.

I TOTALLY agree that placement is THE way to go.

So a round that is easier to shoot well might be a good reason to go there.

I still own and shoot 5 .357 magnums,but that is too much gun with overpenetration in a 'friendly' enviroment for me.

Since I shoot the G-19 well and it fits all my leather/holsters for the G-23 ,it would be easy to switch.

Since you did ask :).

btw,sorry cant name source as it was told to me as a INSIDE information only thing.
 
I carry my CZ in 9mm all the time, no problems there. And 18+1 bullet is nice to have.

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I'll be all over it once the Government will let me own a post '86 MP5.

Wonder if politics plays into it. A Republican in the white house when they went for 10mm and a Dem steers toward 9mm.

Suprized they are not going to bean bags like they want our border fellows to do.
 
i carry based upon my perception of what may happen where i am intending to go, accept that bad people are free to travel and we may cross paths. the weather, the seasons and how im dressed. than i choose two ( more often than not) finish getting dressed and if all goes as planned, i will not touch the guns again till i get undressed.

bikerdoc, i'll bow to your wisdom of age--you got me by 2 years. though my 357 is a 3" j-frame usually loaded with ny-clads (+P SWC's).

carry the same bullet as my state or local police to make my defense ( if ever needed) go easier. but i'll chose my caliber.
 
I guess the FBI is finally following my advice :p. I consolidated everything to 9mm awhile ago. Cheaper, readily available, and when it comes to todays handgun rounds they all pretty much do the same thing. 9s the closest thing to a universal handgun round so why not. Plus maybe if the rumor is true it'll help keep the price low also.
 
the 9mm ammo the FBI used in the Miami shootout did just what it was suppose to do. the expectations of that particular round to do something else was a direct misapplication of it.

tactics not caliber is to blame for that. the reason they went to the .40cal is because after they misapplied a certain 9mm round, they thought they had to get a different caliber instead of using different ammo.

they went with the 10mm and found that they just couldnt handle it, but used the "too powerfull" reason as to why they asked for a down loaded version.

after the creation of reduced power 10mm loads came out somebody got smart and realized you dont need that long of a cartridge for that little of power. this is when the .40cal was born.
 
Going back to the 9mm. Interesting. The 9mm hollow-point has come a very long way since Miami in 1986. I've been carrying the 9mm for years myself. Guess the F.B.I. is chaning because of me.

I guess that is what they call full circle.

I carry .40, 9mm or .45 it all depends on my mood. But, Miami 1986 sure highlites some truth about balistic capabilities doesnt it?
 
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