Obama ‘evaluates’ multiple gun control bills advanced by Senate Democrats

What would be awesome is if there was an organization that had people who loved and understood gun ownership that might have the insight and experience to help fashion gun regulations that didn't offend its members and protected the rights of reasonable and responsible gun owners, but at the same time, helped prevent tragedies and preventable violence.

If only such an organization existed. It's a shame the NRA is nothing more than a tool of gun manufacturers to keep gun owners scared so they keep buying more guns. (Which, by the way, don't wear out!!! Buying more and more guns is like buying more and more coffee cups. Yes, one or two might break, but a well made coffee cup that is cared for will last a lifetime, or more.)

What would be awesome is if there was an organization that had people who loved and understood gun ownership that might have the insight and experience to help fashion gun regulations that didn't offend its members and protected the rights of reasonable and responsible gun owners, but at the same time, helped prevent tragedies and preventable violence.

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How about we DON'T fashion any more gun regulations and work as hard as possible to REPEAL those already on the books? An organization like that we could all get behind.

Human beings being what we are, and the world being what it is, we will never prevent violence and tragedy (of all kinds). Hard cases make for bad law. But they sure do make for sensationalistic ways of advancing pre-established agendas of disarmament and control.

The NRA isn't the best and strongest force for positive change we COULD have, but it is by far the best and strongest force for change we DO have.

Anyone who thinks that the NRA's press releases are WHY we go out and buy guns has a perspective of gun owners so clouded as to suggest that they probably don't have much experience with guns or gun owners, either.

Anyone who thinks that the NRA's press releases are WHY we go out and buy guns has a perspective of gun owners so clouded as to suggest that they probably don't have much experience with guns or gun owners, either.

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Right on.

+1 Sam. Signature line worthy stuff right there.

What would be awesome is if there was an organization that had people who loved and understood gun ownership that might have the insight and experience to help fashion gun regulations that didn't offend its members and protected the rights of reasonable and responsible gun owners, but at the same time, helped prevent tragedies and preventable violence.

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There IS such an organization - it is called the National Rifle Association. Though people who aren't familiar with guns, gun owners, or gun legislation often don't recoginize its contributions.

I agree with Bartholomew Roberts.

If the NRA suddenly disappeared - I believe gun owners would then see how important and needed the NRA was.

This long time gun owner is most grateful for the National Rifle Association.

What would be awesome is if there was an organization that had people who loved and understood gun ownership that might have the insight and experience to help fashion gun regulations that didn't offend its members and protected the rights of reasonable and responsible gun owners, but at the same time, helped prevent tragedies and preventable violence.

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mcrain,

What if the same organization that puts 100% of it's effort into banning guns from the hands of law abiding citizens (the people who don't commit heinous acts with their firearms) put just as much effort into identifying and helping the mentally ill to turn their lives around so that we have less psychopaths?

The situation would be comical if not so serious. All lawmakers and O of course have protection to include bodyguards protecting them. Do any of them propose no more armed bodyguards for them? Noooo. Of course not. They need protection. It is just we poor slobs who do not need protection.

Wow,

I started reading mcrain's post and thought it was all sarcasm and would end with a suggestion to send more money to the NRA.

I am going to have to donate more now, if nothing else just as a thank you for convincing me (or is that tricking me? Hmmm) to buy more guns.

As usual the posturing on a controversial topic is a lot more about positioning pre-election than any serious purpose... If the folks that favor this sort of stuff (the current administration comes to mind....) do get re-elected then things will get serious.

November, it just can't come soon enough...

There are a whole lot of gun laws right now. So many that some folks in good faith cannot keep up with them to follow.

Fortunately, Mr Obama doesn't have a whole lot of control over bills in the Senate. He can do all the "evaluating" he wants, but until it goes across his desk as a bill approved by both houses of Congress, he has zero power in the process.

Exactly the way the Founders intended it.

What would be awesome is if there was an organization that had people who loved and understood gun ownership that might have the insight and experience to help fashion gun regulations that didn't offend its members and protected the rights of reasonable and responsible gun owners, but at the same time, helped prevent tragedies and preventable violence.

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What is the National Rifle Association, Alex?

1. The only "gun regulations" that need to be fashioned are those to repeal current laws.

2. If you want to prevent violence like the Batman Massacre then work to repeal the gun regulations that made that theatre a gun free zone and converted into a governmentally approved slaughter pen.

If you want to prevent violence, carry your own gun(s).

It's a shame the NRA is nothing more than a tool of gun manufacturers to keep gun owners scared so they keep buying more guns.

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Yet again the Brady Bunch has confused the NRA with SAAMI or NSSF. We, the NRA, are not them. We are much, much tougher and we shall win.

I do not buy guns out of fear, but out of love. Love of my rights. Love of my family. Love of freedom to use and carry my guns as I so choose.

Buying more and more guns is like buying more and more coffee cups.

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It is obvious the Bradys do not shoot. Guns break when you use them.

I've broken Rugers, Les Baers, FNs, Colts, inter ali. However, I shoot my guns.

Find the guns you like, buy multiple copies of the guns you like.

robhof

My wife has 50 pairs of shoes, I only have 36 guns and I've shot every one of them at least once, but I guess I'm a pawn of the NRA. I understand some people thinking that they don't give an inch, but after 20+yrs in the USAF, I well know the term''give them an inch and they'll take a mile" and with liberal zealots those are words to live by!!!!:banghead::banghead:

Hey, I like having a lot of coffee cups!

"O" is looking, and also his cronies, at what they WILL do after the election. either way it goes in november, he,s still going to be in charge until january. the dems are too smart to even mention gun control before an election. the past has shown them that trying to regulate firearms before an election is one sure way to end up looking for a new job.
you can say what you want about the NRA, but you have to agree, if it wasn,t for them, we would have lost all our guns years ago.

ALL the time is before an election. Congressmen and Senators are constantly running for reelection. The ones not in progun control districts can get away with introducing bills. Te rest can't get away with voting for them. Iay be wrong but I don't see any significant national legislation being advanced.

More gun control because another wacko does what he would have done with what ever he had to do it with. Hmmmm.

No .....gun control is a power issue and we the people had best realize it.

For instance.....the Roman empire was an empire because they had more people proficient with the sword than any other people on earth at the time.......that all ended when they grew fat, lazy and filled with decadence......better swordsmen took the stage.

the USA is a republic.....ruled by the people. Once the people are disarmed......they rule nothing, because all of the nicety and gentile stuff aside, it's the last man standing who makes the rules. Ask any cop or soldier.
You can make all the laws you want but in the end.....it's the guy with the gun who makes it so. Ask Chairman Mao. His words so true "Justice comes from the barrel of a gun"

So if we are stupid enough to believe that human nature is any different today than it was 2000 years ago....we simply lose.
Ask that hamburger your eating.....it's for sure the descendant of a long line of cows and it ended up in your mouth.... same as his father and his fathers father etc.etc.

It also matters not who the leader of the country happens to be at the time.....we are humans and that is that.......!

I'm curious why Lautenberg feels that stopping online sales would have any meaningful effect ? Ammo is ammo; any shop owner I know isn't going to bat an eyelash at selling a few thousand rounds; it's just a matter of economy for a regular shooter. Silly, silly proposition.

Now with the shooting at the Sikh temple, I expect things to get more shrill..

You might look at the current Time magazine with a cover that says:

How Guns Won.

An analysis by Joe Klein that indicates gun control is functionally dead.

I summarizes it on TFL in General but too lazy to look up the link. Sorry.

So, I wouldn't panic by the usual suspects saying blah, blah. Not that we shouldn't be vigilant but you can stay calm.

GEM said:

You might look at the current Time magazine with a cover that says:

How Guns Won.

An analysis by Joe Klein that indicates gun control is functionally dead.

I summarizes it on TFL in General but too lazy to look up the link. Sorry.

So, I wouldn't panic by the usual suspects saying blah, blah. Not that we shouldn't be vigilant but you can stay calm.

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Klein is the liberal hack-in-chief at Time. It's just a ruse to fire up the anti-2a crowd. I would in no way take that to mean that gun control is "functionally dead."