Today, I went to my local gun show. Even though I knew everything would be far too overpriced, as usual, It only comes once a year, and I hardly ever go to gun shows, so I thought the heck with it, I might as well go. And everything- or ALMOST everything- was overpriced, just as I expected, except for a few good deals (I saw a Sporterized No. 4 Mk.1 .303 for 175 dollars, A non aftermarket WW2 M1 Carbine for $495, Smith and Wesson Model 10 for $250 in good shape with a low serial number, and a few other deals), but I only had 250 dollars in my wallet and was looking for a Mosin. It was a small gun show, but I searched through almost every table looking for a Mosin Nagant. I ran across a TON of SKS's, mainly Type 56's for 300-400 dollars, which I thought was rather outrageous, but I was shocked to find NO MOSINS WHATSOEVER . Finally, I found the one table I had missed, and, Lo and Behold, there was one M91/30 and one M44. I went with the 91/30. It was overpriced at 160 dollars at first, but I knew the guy selling it well, and managed to talk him down to $135. Most people would still think this was outrageous, but it was A Hex Reciever Rifle, it was already cleaned, so I don't have to bother with getting the cosmoline out, the action was more smooth and slick than any other mosing i've ever tried, the bore wasn't dark, and the trigger pull was nice. It only came with a bayonet, no cleaning kit, oil can, sling, or ammo pouch. But I took the deal anyways, because I liked the rifle. In your guys opinion, did I get a fair deal? Where can I find the little kits that most Mosins come with? Thanks. Also, one more thing. It has a small rectangular gap underneath the rear sight and is Dated 1926. Could it be an Ex-Dragoon?
Mosin Nagant -Did I get a good deal?
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TurtlePhish
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For a hex receiver, already cleaned, good condition Mosin, that's not bad. Nice find.
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I price of 135 is not bad at all. A hex dated 1926 is one i m interested . The fact my mom was born in 1926 is a significant year for me. I think i have one dated 1927 or 1928 hex in pristine condition with mint bore . I got it from Aztec in 2003 and i got it for $125 back then . So prices hasnt really changed . Its the date im interested and the mint condition. Besides the prices on these are very affordable.
Anothermiller
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yup.Paid 100 even for similiar year and hex,all matching..last winter.Darn upper handguard flies forward and comes off after each shot.
I havent gone to a gunshow in quite some time,seems to have not changed.Too many folks trying to move their "yesterdays fun" for a golden price..I watch the fliers for local shops and go to those.
I havent gone to a gunshow in quite some time,seems to have not changed.Too many folks trying to move their "yesterdays fun" for a golden price..I watch the fliers for local shops and go to those.
TurtlePhish
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I do believe that's an ex-Dragoon. Very nice. I love the older barrel rollmarks.
KansasSasquatch
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Anothermiller, it sounds like you need to cork the handguard.
Is there any chance this was used in WW2? Does being an Ex-Dragoon effect value or quality at all? Also, since i'm stupid, was this made in the Tula or Izhevsk factory? Any further info would be appreciated. Also, one more question. Does this seem like a good deal?:http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A76254SC How does russian surplus compare to other types?
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1924 Izhevsk ex-Dragoon. Worth about what you paid for it. Refurbished interwar rifles typically look nicer than their wartime counterparts, simply because the factories weren't in as much of a hurry to get rifles out the door, but there's no real difference in quality.
Russian surplus ammo is fine and AIM is a good company to deal with, although the Bulgarian stuff they have is cheaper and just as good. Doesn't come on stripper clips though. All East Bloc surplus ammo is corrosive, so clean accordingly.
Russian surplus ammo is fine and AIM is a good company to deal with, although the Bulgarian stuff they have is cheaper and just as good. Doesn't come on stripper clips though. All East Bloc surplus ammo is corrosive, so clean accordingly.
TurtlePhish
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Being a 1924 rifle, it was almost definitely issued and I wouldn't be surprised if it saw combat.
Ex-Dragoons command a premium over ordinary 91/30s. Not huge, but definitely more.
Your rifle was made in Izhevsk- the bow and arrow on the barrel is the pre-1928 Izhevsk arsenal stamp. After 1928 it was changed to the current arrow-in-triangle.
That rifle is dripping with history.
The AIM Surplus ammo you linked to is a great deal. They're not kidding- the clips alone are worth about that much. Buy it and shoot with confidence! It's good stuff, AFAIK. Stored in airtight soldered tins, so it hasn't been directly exposed to moisture or adverse environmental conditions. If you need help with how to open the tins, just ask. I heard on a different forum that the Germans pushed the Soviets back to Stalingrad, then the Soviets finally got their ammo cans open and fought them all the way back to Germany!
In all seriousness, Soviet ammo is very well made.
If you need to know any more, just ask!
Ex-Dragoons command a premium over ordinary 91/30s. Not huge, but definitely more.
Your rifle was made in Izhevsk- the bow and arrow on the barrel is the pre-1928 Izhevsk arsenal stamp. After 1928 it was changed to the current arrow-in-triangle.
That rifle is dripping with history.
The AIM Surplus ammo you linked to is a great deal. They're not kidding- the clips alone are worth about that much. Buy it and shoot with confidence! It's good stuff, AFAIK. Stored in airtight soldered tins, so it hasn't been directly exposed to moisture or adverse environmental conditions. If you need help with how to open the tins, just ask. I heard on a different forum that the Germans pushed the Soviets back to Stalingrad, then the Soviets finally got their ammo cans open and fought them all the way back to Germany!
In all seriousness, Soviet ammo is very well made.
If you need to know any more, just ask!
justice06rr
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Yes you got a decent deal. If you consider that they sell for about $89-129 online, plus shipping, background check, transfer fee, then you are way ahead. Esp if the rifle is already cleaned out of all the cosmoline.
Congrats man! Enjoy your Mosin. I bought my M44 for $150 just for reference (also without the cleaning kit)
Congrats man! Enjoy your Mosin. I bought my M44 for $150 just for reference (also without the cleaning kit)
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I always figure if you are happy with your purchase, you didn't over pay.
I bought a 1925 Izzy a couple years ago for $125, and sold it for the same price a year later.
Sounds like you got a good rifle. Enjoy it!
I bought a 1925 Izzy a couple years ago for $125, and sold it for the same price a year later.
Sounds like you got a good rifle. Enjoy it!
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Ummmm, don't get too carried away there ... removal of a guns serial number/import mark is a serious no no that can earn you an all expense paid vacation at Club Fed.
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They were ALL used in WWII. All the 91/30's out there shot at Nazis. The Russians were desperate for small arms all during WWII, which is why all the 91/30's were picked up and arsenal rebuilt; to insure that did not happen again.
True. Desperate enough that some soldiers went into some battles without a gun, knowing that a guy near to them wouldn't be needing his for long. Sad situation.
A Person, you can find pretty much anything you can dream of re: MN info here: http://7.62x54r.net/
Remember some of the Mujahedeens during the Soviet occasion of Afghanistan still using Mosin 91/30s before they got AK 47s in large numbers . I saw a pic in Time magazine in 1988s showing these afghan fighters using them while riding on camels. It was like the pic of Lawrence of Arabia , and him armed with Lee Enfield No 1 rifle. Pretty cool.
Those 1920s Mosin Nagants have so much history. Those were the years that our greatest generation of Gi soldiers were growing up and facing the depression years in 1929. Once they entered their young adult years the war broke out in Europe and Asia. Then rest was history.
Those 1920s Mosin Nagants have so much history. Those were the years that our greatest generation of Gi soldiers were growing up and facing the depression years in 1929. Once they entered their young adult years the war broke out in Europe and Asia. Then rest was history.
carbine85
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Different markets get different prices. That's a $100 - $125 gun around here with the bayo, sling, and cleaning kit.
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