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Solo 1000 is very clean in .45 ACP as well as those previously mentioned.
Use a lot of this in .45ACP.
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Solo 1000 is very clean in .45 ACP as well as those previously mentioned.
I'm using rainier plated bullets, .451 diameter. I don't believe they have any sort of lube on them.I never found W231 to be dirty so I'm not sure what is going with that. It is possible some are mistaking the soot that comes from the lube with a dirty powder.
If you really think it's the powder that's dirty shoot the same powder with a jacketed bullet and see if the "dirt" goes away. You will find most times it;s the lube on the lead bullets that's the problem, not the powder at all.
bds said:If your load is sooty, you may consider bumping up the powder charge for cleaner burn. While plated bullet manufacturers suggest we use lead load data, they come in different sizing.
HSM, Rainier and PowerBond plated bullets are sized at .451", same as jacketed bullet diameter and Berry's plated bullets are advertised larger at .452". X-Treme plated bullets come sized in .451" and .452". IME, depending on the bullet and pistol/barrel used, I needed to use higher powder charges to produce more accurate and cleaner burning loads. YMMV
As I posted already, if you can't get reliable slide cycling/extraction with your load, you need to increase the powder charge. You may be getting too much high pressure gas leakage around the .451" sized bullet and decreasing the chamber pressure and getting less clean powder burn. What is the groove diameter of your barrel?this charge ... results in the occasional FTE.
I increased the charge to 5.6 gn and it has cleaned up quite a bit. The brass is coming out much cleaner. There is still soot build on the end of the gun but it is minimal compared to before and more typical of what I'm used to seeing out of factory loads. The color of the soot is a little different, almost brownish, but I believe that observation is due to paying attention to things I never did before reloading.As I posted already, if you can't get reliable slide cycling/extraction with your load, you need to increase the powder charge. You may be getting too much high pressure gas leakage around the .451" sized bullet and decreasing the chamber pressure and getting less clean powder burn. What is the groove diameter of your barrel?
What a difference .4 gr of powder makes! I love happy endingsJRWhit said:45 acp with win 231. I like the reliability and accuracy but it is very sooty. Mostly on the end of the slide. I'm loading 200 gn copper plated bullets with 5.2 gn 231.
increased the charge to 5.6 gn and it has cleaned up quite a bit. The brass is coming out much cleaner. There is still soot build on the end of the gun but it is minimal compared to before and more typical of what I'm used to seeing out of factory loads.
200 gr LSWC W231/HP-38 Diameter .451" OAL 1.225" Start 4.4 gr (771 fps) 11,000 CUP - Max 5.6 gr (914 fps) 16,900 CUP
200 gr Speer JHP W231/HP-38 Diameter .451" OAL 1.155" Start 5.2 gr (794 fps) 12,700 CUP - Max 5.9 gr (906 fps) 16,700 CUP
Q. What if I can't find load data for your bullets?
A. If you have a load for a cast lead bullet, that will transfer across the board as far as our bullets go. We recommend a starting powder charge directly between the listed minimum and maximum load.
Another vote for the VihtaVuori powders. Been using the stuff over 15 years. I became familiar with it when I was shooting at Kelbly's Range and the powders were the powder at the time for the benchrest shooters. George Kelbly was getting the stuff from Kalton Pettibone and selling large lots to me at a great price and I was stocking the stuff in my shop.I was the first guy I know of to use VV powders.. back when you had to order them through Vince at Kalton Pettibone to even get them...
kinda funny the first two replies are a from a couple of board n00bs saying the same powder (well, more or less)