Yes ct does have a ban. You can have an AR but it can't have a bayonet lug, collapsible stock, or flash hider. You also can't have an Ak but if it's one chambered in .223 it's ok. Seem odd enough? Oh, and without a pistol permit I believe the wait is 2 weeks, not 3 days. With a pistol permit the sale is same day. Last 2 days the gun stores have been insanely packed...and I mean packed.
Feinstein to introduce confiscation bill
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Husker_Fan
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Confiscation wouldn't work for a variety of reasons in this country. The takings clause requires compensation for property for one thing. What's the current market value of all these guns?
Ashcons
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Is this bill anything different than her usual semi-annual attempt to pass a Cali-style EBR ban, aside from the blatant gleefulness of the anti-gun politicians at this tragedy?
wow6599
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Let's not just talk.....let's send money to the NRA. Write our elected officals. Speak with friends and family members. Sign the petition posted on page 1.
It is not about the tool(s) the the hell-bound scumbag used, it's about making America a better place. Cleaner video games, going to church, a black and white understanding of right and wrong.......
It is not about the tool(s) the the hell-bound scumbag used, it's about making America a better place. Cleaner video games, going to church, a black and white understanding of right and wrong.......
mljdeckard
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Make orders to companies like Midway that let you donate to the NRA with your purchase.
crossrhodes
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Maybe
I hope the bill dies as it has in the past but just when you say it wont go anywhere....bang! it passes.
I hope the bill dies as it has in the past but just when you say it wont go anywhere....bang! it passes.
mljdeckard
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No, it doesn't happen just like that. That's certainly now how it passed last time.
AlexanderA
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Where can we find the actual legislative language of this new Feinstein proposal anywhere online? It's hard to comment without seeing the specifics of the proposal.
NeuseRvrRat
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none of the kids died
Most Americans thought the government could not force us to buy health insurance before the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Obamacare. My point, this is no longer the America we grow up in now the government will do ANYTHING they want in order to take power away from us and guns are power.
Bubbles
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If President 0bama isn't careful, Senator Feinstein will steal his award for Top Firearm Salesperson of the Year.
She will be submitting it in January when the next session of Congress begins.
Dr_B
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Magazine capacity is not the problem.
Access to firearms among law-abiding citizens is not the problem.
Availability of ammunition is not the problem.
Mental illness per se is not the problem.
Gun control legislation is not the answer.
Arming teachers is not the answer.
Our problem is one of social degeneration. We are quickly devolving into a society of selfish individuals who define freedom as being able to whatever we want, whenever we want, and without any regard to social responsibility.
Because of this, we have bred several generations of individuals who think the world revolves around their own needs and interests. They walk around every day with a sense of undeserved accomplishment and an over inflated sense of self-worth. They cannot endure criticism or any amount of hardship. They were born and bred as generations of entitled children who expect everything from their fellow citizens and expect to give nothing in return.
Some are the children of the baby boomers, some are of generation X, and some are the "jilted generation" of students who sit in my college classrooms babbling about evolutionary theory (even though they've never had a course on it) and proclaiming to be atheists because they took one philosophy class decided they were smarter than all of humanity that preceded their generation.
And lost in all of this are the people who suffer. People who society has crapped on, people who were bullied, people who are borderline mentally ill, people with personality disorders,... people who are suffering greatly but are ignored by a world that is too busy with itself to pay them any attention.
Some of them commit suicide and some turn to alcohol. A minority of them actually get help after they've hurt themselves or someone else.
And some of them snap and pick up a weapon, whether that be a knife or firearm. After they have killed people, we all sit around watching the news and wonder how this could have happened.
We don't need gun legislation. We need to cure our social disease.
Access to firearms among law-abiding citizens is not the problem.
Availability of ammunition is not the problem.
Mental illness per se is not the problem.
Gun control legislation is not the answer.
Arming teachers is not the answer.
Our problem is one of social degeneration. We are quickly devolving into a society of selfish individuals who define freedom as being able to whatever we want, whenever we want, and without any regard to social responsibility.
Because of this, we have bred several generations of individuals who think the world revolves around their own needs and interests. They walk around every day with a sense of undeserved accomplishment and an over inflated sense of self-worth. They cannot endure criticism or any amount of hardship. They were born and bred as generations of entitled children who expect everything from their fellow citizens and expect to give nothing in return.
Some are the children of the baby boomers, some are of generation X, and some are the "jilted generation" of students who sit in my college classrooms babbling about evolutionary theory (even though they've never had a course on it) and proclaiming to be atheists because they took one philosophy class decided they were smarter than all of humanity that preceded their generation.
And lost in all of this are the people who suffer. People who society has crapped on, people who were bullied, people who are borderline mentally ill, people with personality disorders,... people who are suffering greatly but are ignored by a world that is too busy with itself to pay them any attention.
Some of them commit suicide and some turn to alcohol. A minority of them actually get help after they've hurt themselves or someone else.
And some of them snap and pick up a weapon, whether that be a knife or firearm. After they have killed people, we all sit around watching the news and wonder how this could have happened.
We don't need gun legislation. We need to cure our social disease.
Highcaliber
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A Gun in every classroom
Another petition to sign. This one could actually address the tragic shooting in our Schools.
It works for Israeli schools, as described Massad Ayoob.
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob81.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob90.html
If you look at the other "open petitions" you can see the antis have no problem getting their signatures.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/today-day-sponsor-strict-gun-control-laws-wake-ct-school-massacre/RH2jzffq
Another petition to sign. This one could actually address the tragic shooting in our Schools.
It works for Israeli schools, as described Massad Ayoob.
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob81.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob90.html
If you look at the other "open petitions" you can see the antis have no problem getting their signatures.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/today-day-sponsor-strict-gun-control-laws-wake-ct-school-massacre/RH2jzffq
That's exactly the issue, in a nutshell.
mister_murphy
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In reference to this Feinstein bill, there is mention of
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...duce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/comment-page-8/
Anyone know what the 900 specific firearms that they will exempt if this were to pass? Also, how long would those 900 stay exempt?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...duce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/comment-page-8/
Anyone know what the 900 specific firearms that they will exempt if this were to pass? Also, how long would those 900 stay exempt?
publius
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If the topic post is accurate that she intends to make transfer illegal, the market value will go to zero. That would be significantly different from the 1994-2004 mean-looking weapons ban.
If I have an object that is worth money and the government passes a law making it worth zero, is that a taking for public use under the fifth amendment? Sure seems that way to me.
Can a mod please change the title of this thread? It doesn't do anyone any good for someone reading the title to get the flatly incorrect idea that the Feinstein bill is a "confiscation bill".
We get irritated when gun control folks don't know the correct terms for things ("barrel shroud", anyone?), so we need to use the correct words ourselves, else we are wasting resources fighting a phantom that doesn't exist.
We get irritated when gun control folks don't know the correct terms for things ("barrel shroud", anyone?), so we need to use the correct words ourselves, else we are wasting resources fighting a phantom that doesn't exist.
Reminded me of what my Dad told me when I was younger when helping me with my US History homework on the Constitution...." What the first amendment is son, is guaranteed free speech. You can freely speak about the Government, also, You can walk up to a lady and say you think she is a loose woman.... First, you don't because it is nasty and rude and you don't talk to people like that, second, just remember her husband reserves the right to freely punch your lights out and beat you to hell. Watch what you say, because you own that statement and are responsible for it."
The younger generation IS "all about me". I don't know if it came from us being slack trying to let them have an easier life than we had, or is it all the dope we did back in the 60's coming back to haunt us, gov't telling us we cant spank them, ...I really don't know. I do see that alot of them have no reguard for the value of human life. (unless it's theirs).
wow6599
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Yeah, because booze wasn't worth anything after the Volstead Act either.......
Phatty
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He makes some good points. However, keep in mind that there doesn't have to be a cause or a reason. The current United States population is estimated at close to 315 million. Think about that for a minute. It's an astronomical number. Out of all of those people don't you think there are going to be a handful of total nutjobs / just plain evil individuals regardless of how their parents raised them or how society has treated them?
The odds of a school shooting are astronomically low. I'd venture to guess that a person has a better chance of winning a Powerball jackpot then dying in a school shooting. Politicians and the media completely go nuts whenever there is a school shooting, as if hundreds of little kids didn't just die the day before of any number of causes. With each mass shooting, the coverage is bigger and bigger, which only gives future whackjobs even more incentive to go out with a bang. A person who has been a total nobody their whole life, feels undervalued and underprivileged, knows that they can become a celebrity and have every single news outlet focused on them for weeks if they can take out a bunch of people in a murder/suicide. And the more extreme the more news coverage you will get.
AlexanderA
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Actually, the black market value would go through the roof. Look at our experience with alcohol prohibition, and the current "war on drugs." Both of these created whole criminal classes that hadn't existed before.
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