What black powder long gun to build?

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Looking to build a long gun kit with a friend as a winter project, Neither have built a gun kit before. I have been messing with black powder relovers for a few years now so black powder isnt new to me but the long guns are. So far it looks like Im best to keep away from Traditions kits due to a mixed review of quality control issues....The Lyman Great Plains looks very nice. I have gone through TOW and Dixie GW catiloges and there is alot of choices. Any suggestions for a first time long gun kit?
 
Kentucky Long Rifle flintlock. The first American rifle.

A blunderbuss for the "wow-look at that" factor.

Either one would be a cut above the typical BP kit gun.
 
Well, depending on the skill of the finisher... :D

A Lyman kit is mostly completed, and makes a good rifle. It's really a solo kit as there is so little to do. Mostly wood finishing.

When you get a "kit" from Pecatonica River or Track of The Wolf, they are parts kits. Depending on the rifle/fusil that you choose they can be complicated. I'd suggest you do a caplock if you've never done a parts-kit, and don't forget to order the barrel with the breech plug installed, and the dovetails for the front and rear sights milled. A partially inlet stock is also a good idea. Finally..., NO power tools except for a drill press, and only use the press for very few applications.

You can also contact any of the semi-custom gun makers and ask them for a price to inlet the barrel, or you could ask them to also inlet lock, and trigger, leaving the rest of the work for you to do. It's sort of half way between a Lyman style kit, and a pure parts kit.

Once you go beyond the factory produced kits, you do increase price, but you get to pick and choose more features, and you get a custom finished piece when done. For example, even if we both ordered the exact same "kit" with the same source with the same amount of work done before they arrived at our homes, when we finished them each would have differences due to the choices we made when completing the piece. ;)

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ok just to clarify, we are loooking at building 2 guns, one each. Thank you for the heads up about the Lyman being almost finished except wood work ect. Cost is a little of a factor, Im looking at about a cap of 500 for the gun plus building supplies.
 
lyman great plains rifle, they are real beauties once you get them finished. I like the kit guns better, the factory stuff looks like crap IMO.
 
I'm in the process of assembling a 50 cal Lyman GPR (percussion) kit. This was a good choice for me since I've never built one before. They are known to be great shooters.

There was very little inletting required and the barrel didn't need any filing. It really didn't take long to put together, but I'm still in the process of browning the barrel which takes multiple days to get it just right.

The price of the kit is well within your budget ($382 @ Midsouth Shooter's Supply). A "kit" from TOTW will take longer to put together which may be good
if that's what you're looking for, but their least expensive one will be a bit north of $500.
 
Look at the video posts by Duelist1954 as he is going through the assembly process for a kit Kentucky Rifle. I did a Traditions percussion pistol kit earlier this year that I bought from Dixie Gun Works and was real happy with the result. Keep us informed as to your decision as at least one of us is going through the same process as you! :D
 
I have been watching Dualist's videos on the Kentucky build and they have been very helpful. I see that I could easily get over my head, have alot of money invested, and not have a clue to what I was doing. If I get to the build, I want something that is not just look pretty on the wall, but fulling funtional suitable extended white tail season
 
If you've never built one before, Lyman Great Plains. Customize it by adding an iron patch box.
 
The Dixie Hawken rifles are made by Investarms, the same company that makes the Lyman rifles.
The Dixie Hawken kit comes in both flint and percussion, has very nice balance, with an adjustable sight, double triggers and a cheek piece.
However the Kentucky is more of a true long gun, either a Pedersoli ($495 percussion, $525 for a .45 flint) or a Traditions ($265). The Traditions .50 has a 1 in 66" twist, the Pedersoli .50 has a slightly longer barrel with a 1 in 48" twist, double triggers and nicer wood.

Dixie flint rilfe kits:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_162_193&osCsid=e2d40094feee9cb3d790bcf9c76fbbef

Dixie percussion rifle kits:

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_162_192&osCsid=e2d40094feee9cb3d790bcf9c76fbbef
 
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