Even in the United State of Texas

Yep. It's pretty sad.

Since Sandy Hook I've had not one but two of my friends that are deer hunting country type people say "no one really needs 30 round magazines anyway".

I was floored both times and tried to rationally explain what will happen if we give in.

One of these guys is pretty wealthy and I told him what if the government decides that you don't need that 4k square foot house that you live in. After all you are robbing future generations clean air by all the energy that the house uses. I said surely two people (only he and his wife live in it) can live in a 900 square foot trailer house. Then I said what about when the gov decides that 2 people don't need 400 acres of land that is not farmed/ranched and only used for deer hunting. Surely two people can live on one acre. I reminded him that there was a lot o people that have far less and would not support his right to be successful. Same as non gun owners.

I think I got through to him using logic as he was nodding and I could really see the wheels spinning.

I'm really concerned when I hear Texans talk like this. They don't get what is really at stake. It's not a 30 round mag or a specific gun.

The point is that the gun grabbers want it all the way down to knives and sling shots to be banned.

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In-case you haven't noticed, most hunting knives and slingshots are banned from being carried in public.

Jim

I saw that column, wrote to the guy who wrote it and shared a few thoughts with him ... he's a huge uberliberal, takes the farthest left position on every issue .... planning to write the paper about the gunshow deal, which is garbage ...

You know what they say about Austin,... You can see Texas from there

Madison WI is what I call "Berkeley of the north". Madison: "100 square miles (or so) surrounded by reality".
Austin is Madison Wisconsin of the south(west).

Such editorials should not be much of a surprise when ignorant wannabe journalist types try to make "good copy" in the newspaper, trying to exploit the urban citizens' ignorance about guns by apeing the cheap stunts so common in the leftist "gutter press".
Monkey see, monkey do....

But all may not be lost. Those urban "wannabe Che Guevaras" in their newspaper cubicles, so desperate for public attention might unknowingly be helping me sell the nasty, wicked Yugo Mauser at the next Memphis show.

the Austin city council acts like it's transplanted from the liberal side of San Francisco

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You're more correct than you realize.

This is a common trend in many parts of the country now, cities stepping in to restrict or prohibit gun shows on state and/or private property. City councils straying out of their lane is nothing new. State gun rights organizations should be on our radars as much as national organizations. Grass Roots North Carolina, for example, has already threatened a lawsuit as a result of similar illegal decrees by at least one city council. So support your state organizations and hopefully they will use their legal resources to remind local politicians they must abide by the law rather than making unlawful, unconstitutional decrees.

You know what they say about Austin,... You can see Texas from there

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Awesome quote! I'll have to tell my tea-sipping friends that one! Gig 'em!

Austin is the red headed step child of Texas

If guys shows are being denied permits to operate then it's Class Action Lawsuit time. As gun owners we meet the definition of a "Class of People" who are being being treated differently. The KKK and Nazi's have more Rights than the law abiding gun owner and that's down right scary.

When I was attending the Concealed Instructor's class at the DPS Academy in Austin, in 1996, one of the Troopers instructing us called Austin "A blue pimple on a red Texas ass"... He was right.

Yes, "Moscow on the Colorado" has always had a different view than the rest of Texas.

Just my.02,
LeonCarr

What's the level of actual public support of this? Does it run afoul of legal precedent?

I'm a conservative Austinite. Most of the liberals live downtown, the suburbs are conservative. Downtown and not the entire downtown, mind you, is like this pocket of left-wing stupid that set up shop atop a canvas of old hippiedom. They fancy themselves the intellectual successors to a bunch of pot-heads.

I have to add that I don't think there is a groundswell of support for these idiots. They probably assume there is though, in the little world they've created around themselves.

Yamoto: That's a pretty good description of Austin today. I was born and raised there but got out as soon as I could, many years ago, and when I go back I don't recognize it any more.

My son liked in Austin, and got so tired of all the crap there he decided to move to a new job in-- get ready for it-- BOULDER COLORADO!! I told him he's jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

I've not been to Austin, how is the gun culture on the street? Are there many gun shops, shooting ranges, Cabela's, etc?

@TheCracker, yep same thing happened to me. I have a guy that hunts on our land. He is a long time friend of my family and a great guy. He is a very outspoken middle-aged conservative and one of the most avid hunters I have ever known. He told me that he thought AR's and other " Assault Rifles" should be taken and destroyed. I was floored also..

Austin gun culture is very strong. We have a large NFA community, thanks in part to being one of the few major cities where the CLEO will sign off on Form 4s. We also have quite a few independent local gun shops. Locovore extends to firearms here as well.

Who is the CLEO? The Chief of Police or the county sheriff? I was surprised to hear that he (whoever it is) is willing to do NFA stuff.

I'm a conservative Austinite. Most of the liberals live downtown, the suburbs are conservative. Downtown and not the entire downtown, mind you, is like this pocket of left-wing stupid that set up shop atop a canvas of old hippiedom. They fancy themselves the intellectual successors to a bunch of pot-heads.

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This is so right on.

We have some good gun shops in and around Austin and excellent shooting ranges around Austin. We do have a Cabelas south of town. Also 2 indoor shooting ranges in the area if that's your sort of thing.

As far as them banning the shows, then they'd just move to Williamson county most likely.

Good LGSs:
McBrides
Austin Gun Liquidators
Texas Heritage Firearms

Good Ranges:
Best of the West
Austin Rifle Club

Us THR ATX conservative types should do a meetup sometime.

Terrible times this is. They have just ordered all 'colored' to the back of the bus.

On the plus side, we can finally see who are under those KKK hoods.

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@TheCracker, yep same thing happened to me. I have a guy that hunts on our land. He is a long time friend of my family and a great guy. He is a very outspoken middle-aged conservative and one of the most avid hunters I have ever known. He told me that he thought AR's and other " Assault Rifles" should be taken and destroyed. I was floored also..

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I hope you tried to reason with him. I think the reason that some I these guys have this attitude is because they simply don't have one themselves. My two friends just have guns they hunt with. Nothing for self defense and are not the type that go to the range unless they are sighting in a new rifle. They might shoot skeet occasionally but that's about it.

I hope these types understand that even their semi auto and even pump shotguns (reminded each of them that you can't even have a pump in Austrailia) are considered "assault weapons" by the anti-freedom gun grabbers.

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@TheCracker, yep same thing happened to me. I have a guy that hunts on our land. He is a long time friend of my family and a great guy. He is a very outspoken middle-aged conservative and one of the most avid hunters I have ever known. He told me that he thought AR's and other " Assault Rifles" should be taken and destroyed. I was floored also..

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I hope you tried to reason with him. I think the reason that some I these guys have this attitude is because they simply don't have one themselves. My two friends just have guns they hunt with. Nothing for self defense and are not the type that go to the range unless they are sighting in a new rifle. They might shoot skeet occasionally but that's about it.

I hope these types understand that even their semi auto and even pump shotguns (reminded each of them that you can't even have a pump in Austrailia) are considered "assault weapons" by the anti-freedom gun grabbers.