New York Discussion in Progress

Well, if any good comes from this, its that Cuomo has no chance of any political future outside New York now.

I expect that there will be some seats changing in the republican senate in NY in the next election.

Can someone please give me a link to the text of the bill?

Thanks.

Time to march on Albany....

SharpsDressedMan said:

I guess NY didn't get the "No Compromise!" battle cry.......

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Really man?

Any olive branch that could have been offered would have been viewed as a joke compared this restrictive smorgasbord! You honestly think that some symbolic compromise would have stopped this steamroller?

BULL.

This gets down to the real issue: are we moral adults, or are we moral children? If we are adults, then we have the capacity to control our will even in the face of passion, and to be responsible for the exercise of our natural rights. If we are only children, then all the particularly "dangerous" toys must be controlled by the government.

Okay, I'm still confused. Initially there were reports that currently owned 10round magazines have a one-year grace period for ownership, but after that expires ownership of magazines over 7 rounds will be a misdemeanor offense. Is this still the case?

Pistols are already licensed, but now i see, they want you to completley go through the process every 5 years,not just a renewal,still makes no sense,lisenced gun owners dont rob banks, only criminals with illegal guns do...

"Bans possession of any high-capacity magazines regardless of when they were made or sold. Only clips able to hold up to seven rounds can be sold in the state. Clips able to hold seven to 10 rounds can be possessed, but cannot be loaded with more than seven rounds. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, he or she could face a misdemeanor charge."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...control-law-first-since-newtown-massacre?lite

Section 38 of the bill amends Penal Law � 265.00(23) to ban all large
capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten
rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under
the original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines
that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can
hold more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are
currently possessed will be grandfathered in, but may only contain
seven rounds of ammunition. Exceptions are made for large capacity
magazines that are curios or relics.

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I'm not seeing anything on a one-year grace period for magazines over 7 rounds. Where did this originate?

Exceptions are made for large capacity
magazines that are curios or relics.

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So a C&R Hi Power Magazine is legal to own but cannot be loaded with more than 7 rounds?

Also anyone know if that is 7+1 or 6+1? Can you have 7 in the mag one in the pipe? Sounds like 7+1 right?

The only other question is what about gun stores that have 10 round only pistols right now, do they have to pull them from the shelves because they are not owned by anyone? insanity at its best...

I don't know about you all but I'm not selling ANY of my mags...PERIOD!

As long as I'm not found to have more than the maximum amount of rnds. loaded, I will not be in violation.

Oppression has started

Amazing...I feel for you NY.

Lots of talk, but the only thing politicians understand is cash. If Remington takes their 1000 jobs, and every other gun manufacturer in NY (I think there are at least a few) also takes their jobs to another state it would at least make the pols somewhat accountable. Explaining job loss and driving out industries is bad business.

On the other hand, a lot of AR's and ammo should be available to the rest of the USA, at least for a while.

Eastern Penn. would be a good placed to buy mags and AR's.

Sorry, just trying to make light of a crappy situation. I don't think the NRA is going to jump on this soon. They need to keep their powder dry for the main event.

I don't know about you all but I'm not selling ANY of my mags...PERIOD!

As long as I'm not found to have more than the maximum amount of rnds. loaded, I will not be in violation.

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Unless it holds more than 10 rounds.....:banghead:

I don't know about you all but I'm not selling ANY of my mags...PERIOD!

As long as I'm not found to have more than the maximum amount of rnds. loaded, I will not be in violation.

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So I'm understanding correctly that the so-called one-year grace period concerning over 7rd mags initially reported was not included in the passed legislation? If that is so then where did this claim originate?

@VAgunner, I believe that it was already illegal to have over 10rd magazines of ANY kind in NY.

@VAgunner, I believe that it was already illegal to have over 10rd magazines of ANY kind in NY.

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It was my understanding that the standard capacity mags which were owned prior to the original assault weapons ban were grandfathered....?

Not up on NY law so I could be wrong.

What rifle doesn't have a forward handguard? Please enlighten me. Or is it a forward grip?

It was my understanding that the standard capacity mags which were owned prior to the original assault weapons ban were grandfathered....?

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Excluding those, and C&R eligible firearms apparently. You're right. This crap is confusing.

Excluding those, and C&R eligible firearms apparently. You're right. This crap is confusing.

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Yup sounds like the new law removes the grandfathering of the older mags unless they are C&R....

NY law read as. Pre 94 magazines of greater than ten rounds were allowed until this new legislation now any age magazines greater than ten are banned....:banghead: IMHO this could be one of the darkest days I've ever seen, definitely some major decisions need to be made.

NY... Ouch.

I've always wanted to try living in NYC. After this law-- Not anymore. I feel sorry for those firearms enthusiasts that live in New York.

ban all large capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten
rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under
the original assault weapons ban

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Yeah, you're right again.

So, assuming that I'm right about initial reports of a 1yr grace period for ten-round mags being false (still curious as to where that came from), at minimum this is what current NY gun owners are looking at;

-If you had magazines larger than 10rds that were grandfathered in 1994, those are now illegal and you must sell them out of state.

-If you have a non-C&R pistol that accepts 10 round magazines, you may keep your 10 rd magazines (until more stringent laws are implemented) but may only keep 7 rounds in them. Nothing mentioned of rounds in the pipe so maximum of 8 rounds on hand given no reloads.

-You must register anything the state defines as an assault weapon to a state registry.

-All ammo purchased online must go to an FFL.

-All ammo sales require a background check.

-The amount of ammo you purchase will be scrutinized and questioned.

-Your doctor can essentially revoke your firearm permit with little opportunity for recourse.

Those are the big ones, I'm sure I probably missed something.