NY Gun Owners Threatening Non-Compliance With New Gun Control Laws

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I'm a huge coffee fan, actually. However, what was mentioned isn't coffee. Starbuck's main coffee blend is (I believe) Pike's Peak. Decent enough. For Columbian I prefer Caribou's brand, which is the best IMO. Believe it or not, the McDonald's who serve Newmans's coffee serves a great product for $1 for any size. I also really like Dunkin Donut's coffee. Cumberland Farm's gas stations serve a good coffee as well and I like their Columbian brand also. As you can see, I don't call anything that ends in "chino" coffee even though it may contain 10% real coffee. I also don't see any coffee with a "chino" in it in the hands of any hard core gun person who posts on these boards. Of course, I have been proven wrong.
I like it cause its chocolatey and has whipped cream.

I'm a hard core gun person.

You've been proven wrong.

I'm impressed of your coffee knowledge, though. You and my mom would have common ground. Pun intended.
 
First I've heard of this.

They are the "canary in the mine" but that is one brave canary!!!! Bravo!!! If they pass similar stupidity here in CT, I sincerely hope we have the stones to do this.
 
IMHO, this is not one of the battles worth fighting.

Well, maybe the folks up north just talk big...maybe they're just kidding. I do know that the folks down here with "pry it from my cold dead fingers" bumper stickers on their trucks pretty much mean it, wives, kids, jobs or not. And it's not just guns, it's any right. Most just want to be left alone.
 
Defiance by not turning them in is one thing. I doubt thered be much door to door confiscation. Problem is they become closely guarded secret safe queens. Take em too the range, somone calls the cops and you're nailed. Sure you may get away with keeping them, but how do you use em unless at LEAST local and county le is onboard with non-enforcement?
You make for a very large, tight-knit group of banned weapon owners, and only take them out to the range in concert. It's one thing for an officer to arrest one or two guys with rifles. It's entirely another when there's 20, 50, or a hundred of them. Nobody (law enforcement included) wants to be the guy who fires the first shot of a civil war.
 
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IMHO, this is not one of the battles worth fighting.

According to the Small Arms Survey, tens of millions of people worldwide have chosen to ignore registration laws, as apparently have quite a number in your home state of New Jersey, as discussed below.

Likewise, in New Jersey, said The New York Times in 1991, after the legislature passed a law banning “assault weapons,” 947 people registered their rifles as sporting guns for target shooting, 888 rendered them inoperable, and four surrendered them to the police. That’s out of an estimated 100,000 to 300,000 firearms affected by the law. The Times concluded, a bit drily, “More than a year after New Jersey imposed the toughest assault-weapons law in the country, the law is proving difficult if not impossible to enforce.”
 
You live in the free state of Utah as a matter of choice.

In general, people who live in New York also do so as a matter of choice.
One of the consequences of living in certain states is that the freedoms which others take for granted in states like Utah simply do not exist in states like New York and New Jersey.
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And you can choose to be a sheep and let your government take away your freedoms and liberties, or you can choose to resist and tell your government, "No, you work for ME, not the other way around."

I choose to resist.

One of the consequences of choosing to let your government rule you is that they will eventually take everything you have, piece by piece.

Why do you choose to be afraid of what your government will do to you for exercising your right to bear arms?
 
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And you can choose to be a sheep and let your government take away your freedoms and liberties, or you can choose to resist and tell your government, "No, you work for ME, not the other way around."

I choose to resist.

One of the consequences of choosing to let your government rule you is that they will eventually take everything you have, piece by piece.

Why do you choose to be afraid of what your government will do to you for exercising your right to bear arms?
More succinctly, do you live on your knees as a coward?

Or die on your feet, like a free man.
 
No matter the consequences, what they're doing is American. Our forefathers would be proud.

... and for the record. Mocha Iced Coffee. From Sheetz. We're all bitter from the cold winters here in PA (all of that white-knucked clinging to guns and religion doesn't help either I imagine). Makes us mean enough to drink our coffee frozen all but solid. Even when we do decide to drink it hot it ends up cold as it's poured from the thermos to the mug anyway. :D
 
You live in the free state of Utah as a matter of choice.

In general, people who live in New York also do so as a matter of choice.
One of the consequences of living in certain states is that the freedoms which others take for granted in states like Utah simply do not exist in states like New York and New Jersey.

If an assault weapons ban was clearly unconstitutional it would have been successfully challenged before the country turned to the left.

Washington is not going to send federal troops to New York to enforce the Second Amendment.

It stinks, but that's the way it is.
That's what they are counting on is for us to bow down and roll over like you. I hope the rest of the "People's Republic of New Jersey" has some larger acorn's than your's. I'm sure the brave men of the Boston Tea Party had wive's and children to think about as they stood up and fought for what they thought was right. Just think where we would be if they had'nt. If we don't stand up and fight back, we are coward's. I'm not one.
 
Your angry ex-wife fighting for custody knows you own it.
Prove it.

Unless she has proof that I own it, which my ex does not, her word doesn't mean jack.

Search, little minions, search until you are blue in the face with wariness.

You'll never catch me.

Edit to add: You tout yourself as from the "People's Republic of New Jersey" as if in disdain for the state itself or maybe just partially unsettled by its "blueness". However, you seem to embrace the backwards mentality that makes that very state a "RepubliK". I'm nary confused, but now I admit I am.
 
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I am sad to see so much talk on all gun boards to the effect of "well thats NY's problem, they voted them in, they can deal with it". I assure you, any state in the Union with a large city or a growing city population can and will have the same problems we are having here. 80+ percent of the State's geographic land mass is dominated by ONE CITY. Our politicians pander to them because THAT is where they fund raise. Upstate is outnumbered more than 2 to 1 at the polls. WE are not represented by people whom we vote for at high offices.

Ben Franklin said it best-

we must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.

NY will NOT be an isolated event. We will be the proving grounds on the viability of this legislation. I don't care what you think of your state's population and voting habits now- This will come to you in your time or in the time of your children.

We all need to ditch the lone-wolf mentality and get on the same page here.

I personally think this article hurts us. It is an attempt at discrediting the gun lobby as would-be criminals, people on the fringe who disobey laws. This battle will be fought in the courts, and we will do our best to keep trying to elect good officials that will represent us, but this had bi-partisan support- some of which had A ratings from the NRA (skelos was an A in 2010).

I am an Upstater- born and raised. I was raised in CNY, and educated in NYC and now live in WNY. I have seen much of the political climate of NYS and had a better opportunity than most to participate to the best of my ability in trying to support a government that I believe represents me. Please- do not give up on NYS, and do not write us off. I'm not asking you to give your money to our legal funds (though you can if you want) nor am I asking you to move here and help us win the polls with sheer numbers. I am asking you for your verbal, outward support.

We in NYS will fight as hard as we can to beat this legislation- but please don't leave us out in the cold. I don't think we could do anything worse than infighting on the eve of federal legislation, that I would bet is closely watching how things shake out in New York.
 
Congratulations New York, for having some stones...
Unfortunatly for you the yankee's still suck. (please dont relaliate with anything pertaining to our last season. we know..)

Sincerly,
Red Sox fan who grew up in BOSTON
 
I don't think anyone is leaving anyone out in the cold. I think the general consensus from most states is "stand up for your rights". NY is the proving ground, I just hope the gun owners don't back down.
 
First.....

First, let me makes this clear, Tea, cream no sugar. With that out of the way, I have saved my FID card from the Peoples Republic of MA. that I had to get when I was in High School in the 70's or get a year in jail for possession of even a BB gun. Prior to that when I got my first .22 in grade school we would open carry on our way, multiple .22's, to the dump to shoot rats. Or, even leave them on the front yard while we squeezed in a quick Street Hockey game. No one ever hurt, bullets kept in our pockets while we lived like American Boy's. In forty years I have seen incredible gov't creep. Don't ever believe "This will be enough...", right! "We'll keep you safe.", right! Look at all the gov't lies from accounting games to outright failed programs we can see but they say we just don't really understand, right! The gov't wants to grow, to do that it needs power, to do that it needs your rights. Our Founders were keenly aware of what concentrated power lead to and knew the only remedy for free people to resist such tyranny was to give the governing forces pause by facing an armed citizenry. Simple principle with very simple results. Worked well for the first 200+ yrs. and I don't see a compelling argument for switching horses now.
 
I personally think this article hurts us. It is an attempt at discrediting the gun lobby as would-be criminals, people on the fringe who disobey laws.

Martin Luther King Jr. Day seems an appropriate time to extol the virtues of civil disobedience.
 
While this NY ban doesn't effect me (yet), I do hope the best for them. The best outcome would be such massive non-compliance would result in the folks in charge seeing they have legislated against the will of the people and changing course.
 
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